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Old 03-16-2021, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Early America
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I dont get this. Why dont we call "cancel culture" by its real name. Its called shunning. IE we find that individuals acts, or that TOPIC even as so bad that we are shunning those who engage in it, or deal with those who do.

Its not new, its not something invented by-or first used by the left. The right has done it for my entire life, and then the left started doing it as well. Its still the same thing in the end. Its called shunning.

Why dont we just call it what it is. Folks are being shunned. And its something we've done throughout recorded history.
Yeah, that's basically what it is. The Amish also use shunning as a social control mechanism. It's cultish. Just refer to them as the cult they are.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:06 PM
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Because it's not shunning, which is an act of disengaging, ignoring, giving the "silent treatment" etc.
Cancel culture does the opposite, conspicuously drawing attention to offenders.
If the twitter cancel culture mob truly wanted to practice shunning they would not have much to say.
Cancel culture is exactly shunning. It's choosing certain people, and by community agreement, we don't associate with them anymore. Some people may associate with them, but they get a milder shunning.

One person can't "shun". They can decide not to associate with someone, but that's the same thing as shunning. Shunning is a significant portion of a community agreeing not to engage with a person or group.

Did you ever read "The Scarlet Letter" in High School? That's textbook shunning. Draw an A on someone's forehead for Adulturer, and no one is allowed to socialize with that person again.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:07 PM
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Yeah, that's basically what it is. The Amish also use shunning as a social control mechanism. It's cultish. Just refer to them as the cult they are.
Except with Amish shunning, it's meant to be temporary to teach a lesson. At the end of a specific period of shunning, defined in time, the person is welcomed back.

Other cultures shun indefinitely.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I dont get this. Why dont we call "cancel culture" by its real name. Its called shunning. IE we find that individuals acts, or that TOPIC even as so bad that we are shunning those who engage in it, or deal with those who do.

Its not new, its not something invented by-or first used by the left. The right has done it for my entire life, and then the left started doing it as well. Its still the same thing in the end. Its called shunning.

Why dont we just call it what it is. Folks are being shunned. And its something we've done throughout recorded history.
could also be called bullying
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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I dont get this. Why dont we call "cancel culture" by its real name. Its called shunning. IE we find that individuals acts, or that TOPIC even as so bad that we are shunning those who engage in it, or deal with those who do.

Its not new, its not something invented by-or first used by the left. The right has done it for my entire life, and then the left started doing it as well. Its still the same thing in the end. Its called shunning.

Why dont we just call it what it is. Folks are being shunned. And its something we've done throughout recorded history.
It’s carried out by socially constructed cultural antagonist. It’s not shunning which would imply avoiding. It’s a form of activism created specifically to agitate society to the point that society feels like it must do something to make it go away. The problem then arises by the fact that there is no end game, they have no final goals and they explicitly say that is a lifelong activism that can never be complete.

It doesn’t get any more totalitarian than that. Any moron can be hypercritical. It takes real character to make the world a better place instead of a festering sore that you can’t bare to look at.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Except with Amish shunning, it's meant to be temporary to teach a lesson. At the end of a specific period of shunning, defined in time, the person is welcomed back.

Other cultures shun indefinitely.
Or they choose to leave and are permanently shunned, or do something wrong and are permanently shunned.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:12 PM
 
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Yeah, that's basically what it is. The Amish also use shunning as a social control mechanism. It's cultish. Just refer to them as the cult they are.
But when the Amish shun one of their own they are only excluding them from association with other Amish.
The shunned are free to leave the community and will not be shunned in the outside world.
It is true when the leftist witchhunters cancel someone in the media, Hollywood or academia they are canceling one of their own cult members. But of course they will not limit themselves to that. They are elitists and claim the right to cancel anyone at any time for any reason of their choosing.
Which is why they have to be stopped.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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I dont get this. Why dont we call "cancel culture" by its real name. Its called shunning. IE we find that individuals acts, or that TOPIC even as so bad that we are shunning those who engage in it, or deal with those who do.

Its not new, its not something invented by-or first used by the left. The right has done it for my entire life, and then the left started doing it as well. Its still the same thing in the end. Its called shunning.

Why dont we just call it what it is. Folks are being shunned. And its something we've done throughout recorded history.

So your whole point of this ridiculous thread is to prove that the right did it first so the left is justified.


Bulls#it.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Early America
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Except with Amish shunning, it's meant to be temporary to teach a lesson. At the end of a specific period of shunning, defined in time, the person is welcomed back.

Other cultures shun indefinitely.
It's only temporary if the shunned person caves.

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But when the Amish shun one of their own they are only excluding them from association with other Amish.
The shunned are free to leave the community and will not be shunned in the outside world.
It is true when the leftist witchhunters cancel someone in the media, Hollywood or academia they are canceling one of their own cult members. But of course they will not limit themselves to that. They are elitists and claim the right to cancel anyone at any time for any reason of their choosing.
Which is why they have to be stopped.
Shunning or cancel culture - both are social control mechanisms. Call it whatever you like. The purpose is the same.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:42 PM
 
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I'm Okay with calling it shunning. Works for the Amish.

The best part is that these people keep doing it to themselves. They cannot help themselves. Like that abrasive uncle who shows up at Thanksgiving and keeps saying obnoxious things. He thinks that he is the one being victimized too.

It is all about personal responsibility. They know that what they are planning to say or do is going to produce unwelcome backlash, and do it anyhow, then bemoan the reaction. Even worse if they know it will affect their jobs and even impact their families and still say and do obnoxious things publicly.

Then they whine, like some of those posting here. Perhaps, they just need a safe space?

Guess what folks, society has decided that if you act like an sphincter, you may be held accountable. Own it.
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