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This is a good read. And I find that more and more people millennials and younger, not all, but most, subscribe to the white collective guilt thing. Got to wonder where they were brainwashed with it?
Remarkably, white liberals were the only subgroup exhibiting a pro-outgroup bias—meaning white liberals were more favorable toward nonwhites and are the only group to show this preference for group other than their own. Indeed, on average, white liberals rated ethnic and racial minority groups 13 points (or half a standard deviation) warmer than whites.
A better future for all Americans comes from everyone building everyone else up. Not by pitting groups against each other and trying to build yourself up by tearing someone else down.
I agree 100%. That's why we should all support ending policies that have discriminatory effects against minorities, so we can build ourselves all up. Everyone should the same chance at that American Dream as the next person.
What exactly are you claiming is being "torn down"?
How dare we learn from past mistakes, reckon with how we all (myself included) benefit from being white, and the privileges and head starts afforded to us. How dare young people look at the past and say "I want a better future for all Americans".
the problem is that you state these benefits, privileges, and head starts as fact without any supporting data
and then make the choice to state that anyone who might disagree with you DOESN'T want a better future for all Americans.
An interesting thing about the human brain - the region that dictates intelligence is linked to the region that controls empathy. Basically, the more intelligent a person, the more empathetic that person also. It's like muscles, you can't build bigger arm muscles without also building bigger leg muscles, they're all tied together.
The reverse is also true - the less intelligent a person the less empathetic that person is.
What the right-wing called "collective guilt thing".... we already have a word for it - empathy. Smart people saw what happened and feel empathetic. It's not really a liberal thing per se, it's a smart people thing. If they're smart, they can't help but feel empathetic - it's how their brains are wired.
What we're seeing then, is simply the fact that most smart people are liberals; and most less-smart people are right-wingers. The right-wing can't understand the liberals' empathy and are puzzled by it. And it's hard to explain empathy to people whose brains literally are not designed to understand it.
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You should listen to Jordan Peterson speak about ‘empathy.’ Your head will explode. Empathy is not always the appropriate reaction to any situation.
I agree 100%. That's why we should all support ending policies that have discriminatory effects against minorities, so we can build ourselves all up. Everyone should the same chance at that American Dream as the next person.
What exactly are you claiming is being "torn down"?
What is being torn down is today's white people, who are being blamed, collectively, for the bad things that some of their ancestors did.
What is being torn down is today's white people, who are being blamed, collectively, for the bad things that some of their ancestors did.
And even then some of the things they did weren't even necessarily bad. If they hadn't done some of the things they done, white people would've been torn down centuries ago. The left's destructive actions today are proving justification for the past.
An interesting thing about the human brain - the region that dictates intelligence is linked to the region that controls empathy. Basically, the more intelligent a person, the more empathetic that person also. It's like muscles, you can't build bigger arm muscles without also building bigger leg muscles, they're all tied together.
The reverse is also true - the less intelligent a person the less empathetic that person is.
What the right-wing called "collective guilt thing".... we already have a word for it - empathy. Smart people saw what happened and feel empathetic. It's not really a liberal thing per se, it's a smart people thing. If they're smart, they can't help but feel empathetic - it's how their brains are wired.
What we're seeing then, is simply the fact that most smart people are liberals; and most less-smart people are right-wingers. The right-wing can't understand the liberals' empathy and are puzzled by it. And it's hard to explain empathy to people whose brains literally are not designed to understand it.
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#1 Empathy is being able to put yourself in the shoes of another and see how they think and feel.
Studies show that Democrats were LESS Likely to be able to see correctly the Republican point of view and Republicans were MORE Likely to be able to see correctly the Democratic point of view. Both performed poorly as a group, but the Republicans did better.
In politics I would dare say if forced to pick, Republicans are more empathetic. The most intolerant people I know are Democrat ideologues.
#2 Having Collective White Guilt isn't necessarily empathy. You are miscomprehending the difference between understanding and agreeing. It is either arrogance or authoritarianism of you to assume that you have to buy in to your viewpoint in order to have empathy.
Much of Collective White Guilt is illogical and it is depressing. I can see the leftist point of view without agreeing that I must buy into collective white guilt.
#3 Here is a study and guess what? People on the Center-Right politically had the highest IQ average. People on the far left and far right had the lowest IQs. Gasp!
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An interesting thing about the human brain - the region that dictates intelligence is linked to the region that controls empathy. Basically, the more intelligent a person, the more empathetic that person also. It's like muscles, you can't build bigger arm muscles without also building bigger leg muscles, they're all tied together.
The reverse is also true - the less intelligent a person the less empathetic that person is.
What the right-wing called "collective guilt thing".... we already have a word for it - empathy. Smart people saw what happened and feel empathetic. It's not really a liberal thing per se, it's a smart people thing. If they're smart, they can't help but feel empathetic - it's how their brains are wired.
What we're seeing then, is simply the fact that most smart people are liberals; and most less-smart people are right-wingers. The right-wing can't understand the liberals' empathy and are puzzled by it. And it's hard to explain empathy to people whose brains literally are not designed to understand it.
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sure thing Dr Jill.
if there's one thing you're correct about - liberals (and moreso what we speak of, the Social Democrats) THINK they are smarter than everyone else, and are willing to let you know it. Which, of course, wouldn't be EMPATHETIC at all.
Your brand of empathy seems to mean "if we only cared about ___ more, and did more for ___, then it would all get solved." When the reality is, once a human becomes mature enough to make decisions on their own, other humans cannot care more for their growth or success than they do. For a teenager, this is "do I do my homework" because they are well aware that doing the homework generally leads to better outcomes. No amount of demanding from the parents will make them do the proper job on their homework. The teenager must find the motivation - which isn't the homework, but the learning and the results on tests down the road.
A much more mature example - a human that has basic sex ed and decides to have unprotected sex. They are not motivated enough to practice safe sex, and even if it's GIVEN AWAY to them, they won't likely use it.
Yours is a brand of empathy rooted in "the government can solve your problems". Ours is a brand of empathy rooted in "we want everyone to have the same opportunity, and in a small % of cases, we'll have to help you solve unforseeable problems".
What is being torn down is today's white people, who are being blamed, collectively, for the bad things that some of their ancestors did.
Bull crap. White complainers never had it so good but they have bought in to the "poor me" victim label that Trump and his ilk were selling. That is extreme stupidity. All you have to do is open your eyes and look around. You are being manipulated. There truly are people and groups in America who have been the victims of class or economic or racial or religious barriers but white people are not, as a group, in that category.
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