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Old 03-18-2021, 03:30 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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This is the reason people voted for Trump he would of fought with Ford to keep those jobs here Biden just rolls over and takes a nap
Biden promised $15 min wage. Most union contracts have retroactive raises tied to raising min wage.

You double the min wage and union pay gets doubled.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:35 PM
 
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Ford made the announcement Nov 10, 2020 when Trump was still president. Trump didn't do anything about it.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:35 PM
 
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Hardly. 34 different brands are built in Mexico. It's not just cheaper labor.


https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/made-in-mexico
Of the approximately 3.7 million vehicles built in Mexico during 2019, the vast majority were exported. Many came to dealerships in the United States. Building a car requires a global web of suppliers and manufacturing plants. Mexico is an essential link in that network. It's more than just lower labor costs that move production to Mexico. It's also the country's free-trade relationships that allow it to conduct business with dozens of other nations efficiently.
These vehicles can be just as freely assembled in the US. There is no real supplier barriers in the US. They do it to lower assembly cost slightly. They should be tariffed when they send them to the US.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:36 PM
 
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This is the reason people voted for Trump he would of fought with Ford to keep those jobs here Biden just rolls over and takes a nap
Guess you just missed how he fought for those Carrier jobs, eh. A draft dodger fighting for anything other than his place at the trough makes the rest of the world laugh at your naivete.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...shoring-record

https://www.commondreams.org/newswir...volved-awarded

Under Trump: "one-in-four taxpayer dollars spent on federal procurement contracts – at least $425.6 billion – went to firms offshoring jobs during his presidency."

"Half of the top 10 recipients of Trump-era contracts were certified by the U.S. government as having offshored jobs during the Trump administration."

"Trump is currently pledging to ban federal contracts to firms that offshore to China, but to date has awarded $113.9 billion to firms that did just that. Top-100 federal contract recipients, Boeing, General Electric, Dell, Honeywell and Merck collectively offshored 6,038 jobs to China during the Trump administration and were awarded $113.9 billion in government contracts starting in FY 2017."


Where was your outrage when all of that was going on under your messiah who was elected on pledging to stop it??

Disconnect with reality abounds.

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Old 03-18-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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So no layoffs are happening, the Avon Lake plant will still produce the F450-F550-F560 HD trucks, and Ford invested $185 million there in the past 3 years. Ford is moving a future product to Mexico so the concern is about potential expansion of the plant and new hires.

I'm interested in what product that will be built in Mexico. I'm guessing some new BEV product.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:39 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Ford made the announcement Nov 10, 2020 when Trump was still president. Trump didn't do anything about it.
Election Day was Nov 3. Trump couldn't do much could he with Ole Joe taking over in January ?
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Embarrassing, WA
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Ford made the announcement Nov 10, 2020 when Trump was still president. Trump didn't do anything about it.
Nice deflection try. Most knew that the Biden "election" was going to stick, legitimate or not. November 3rd is a week after election day.
FWIW many manufacturers produce the same vehicle in multiple plants/countries. It's common place among those who know, to avoid the "M" (country of manufacture on the Vin) for best chances of not having a lemon.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:40 PM
 
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Trump fought for jobs???? Seriously? What legal contract or Republican sponsored legislation did he enact to make sure of those wink, wink, nod, nod agreements with Ford and other manufacturers? Seriously people can promise all sorts of vague things, but without a serious LEGAL contract or legislation implementing the deal, its pure moon beam soup.

I also dont see all those coal mining jobs he promised??? Didnt his coal mine owner buddies come through for him? Or was it another moon beam promise. Think we should just call him Donald J. Moonbeam. Bunch wishful thinking promises, no action on the ground. Still waiting for that "art of the deal" he kept crowing about. Far as I can tell he didnt negotiate anything, signed anything passed when Republicans held power in both chambers and tried to strong arm by decree, the same things he criticized Obama for doing.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:41 PM
 
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These vehicles can be just as freely assembled in the US. There is no real supplier barriers in the US. They do it to lower assembly cost slightly. They should be tariffed when they send them to the US.

But they aren't and haven't been and probably won't be in the future.
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Old 03-18-2021, 03:45 PM
 
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But they aren't and haven't been and probably won't be in the future.
There won't be much future for Americans allowing large corporations to suck all the wealth away. Americans should be allowed to make things like cars for their own American market as they did from the automobiles origin.
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