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View Poll Results: For the purposes of Federal Income tax, I would prefer
One flat % for both corps and individuals, no deductions, no exemptions, taxed from dollar 1 12 24.49%
One flat % for individuals, no deductions, no exemptions, taxed from dollar 1 3 6.12%
Strictly a Consumption tax, no federal income tax of any kind 28 57.14%
One flat % for individuals, no deductions, no exemptions, taxed from dollar 1 with social welfare benefits grossed up as income 6 12.24%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-19-2021, 06:00 AM
 
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No tax and small and limited government, as the founding fathers intended. As in microscopic government. So small in fact, that we would ask if it even exists at all.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:12 AM
 
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Consumption tax only. It captures tax revenue from income that currently goes unreported because it's earned via illicit means (drug dealers, sex traffickers, child porn purveyors, illegal aliens working for cash, car hijackers, chop shops, common muggers, etc.).
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:14 AM
 
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Flat tax on everybody including business. No deductions for anything ever, including businesses.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:18 AM
 
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Consumption tax only. It captures tax revenue from income that currently goes unreported because it's earned via illicit means (drug dealers, sex traffickers, child porn purveyors, illegal aliens working for cash, car hijackers, chop shops, common muggers, etc.).
Most of your list is the business of states. States can do their own funding instead of always having their hands in the federal pocket.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:18 AM
 
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I used to endorse a flat tax because I don't think there's any reason why any American should pay a higher or lower percentage of their income in taxes than any other American.

But now, I don't think taxation is necessary at all anymore.

We don't use taxes to fund the government anymore.....we just print the money.....so what's the point in taxing anyone?

Ever since we abandoned the gold standard, money doesn't have any more value than we assign it.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Sorry but I don't think any of those are preferable in a modern society. Our tax system works pretty well, just wish it was simpler.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:24 AM
 
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Most of your list is the business of states. States can do their own funding instead of always having their hands in the federal pocket.
Which states run state-owned enterprises that:

Deal illegal drugs?
Traffic sex slaves?
Sell child porn?
Offer up illegal aliens for hire?
Hijack cars?
Run a chop shop
Run mugging rings?
Etc.?

Do tell...

Consumption tax only. It captures the unreported and therefore untaxed income earned via illicit means.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:26 AM
 
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I used to endorse a flat tax because I don't think there's any reason why any American should pay a higher or lower percentage of their income in taxes than any other American.

But now, I don't think taxation is necessary at all anymore.

We don't use taxes to fund the government anymore.....we just print the money.....so what's the point in taxing anyone?

Ever since we abandoned the gold standard, money doesn't have any more value than we assign it.
Good point. Why tax at all when we can just simply print more money as we've already been doing?
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:47 AM
 
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Which states run state-owned enterprises that:

Deal illegal drugs?
Traffic sex slaves?
Sell child porn?
Offer up illegal aliens for hire?
Hijack cars?
Run a chop shop
Run mugging rings?
Etc.?

Do tell...

Consumption tax only. It captures the unreported and therefore untaxed income earned via illicit means.
I meant those crimes are state and local. Sorry for wording it so badly. But we once worked for an AG who was running for governor. He answered a question about arresting major drug dealers with 'if he arrested them, he would be going after most of the current governors friends'.

Would there be any exemptions? I usually pay 3-5000 a year in state and city sales taxes. More if we buy a car.

Under your plan will truly low income people get any exemptions? Will food and utilities be exempt? Clothing under x dollars? Low income would be paying a larger percentage of their income in consumption taxes.
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Old 03-19-2021, 06:50 AM
 
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Funny poll skewed massively to the right. Imagine the AOC one.

A) 0% first 50K, 20% next 50K, 50% next 400K, 70% everything else
B) 0% first 50K, 20% next 50K, 50% next 400K, 70% everything else Double it if you are black. x1.5 in you are Latinx
C) 0% first 50K, 20% next 50K, 50% next 400K, 70% everything else. 0% first 50K, 20% next 50K, 50% next 400K, 70% everything else Double it if you are black. x1.5 (the limits) in you are Latinx x10 if you are a transgender black midget in a wheelchair. x.1 if you have ever owned a gun or confederate flag.
D) Send it all in.

One of the above has just as much probability as the one in the poll.
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