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"I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out."
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Originally Posted by austinnerd
So if the family member states that to the "best of their knowledge" the purchaser is ok, and the purchaser then goes and commits a crime, the family member is now legally culpable? So an abusive husband wanting to prevent his wife from purchasing a firearm to defend herself can do sojust by saying that 'she has issues'? Which family member, is Aunt Bettie or Cousin Tim good enough? What are they 'vouching' anyway, what's the legal definition of that because if you don't define it and then enforce it any law would be worthless. For those who have ill intent, have you just shifted the problem vs addressing it?
Yep.
If an abusive husband wants to prevent his wife from purchasing a firearm, she should take her sister or mom when she goes to get the gun, not her husband.
What they are "vouching", is the person seems stable and they have seen no evidence to suggest the purchaser intends, or will in the future, use the gun to commit a crime.
And I think in all of our families, we can think of people we'd be extremely comfortable vouching for, and people we would be hesitant to.
That's what I'm suggesting. He fell through the cracks. Doesn't mean he's NOT paranoid schizophrenic, just because a court hasn't removed his rights to gun ownership. Means they SHOULD have.
Anyway, I go back to the perfect system. You want to buy a gun? Bring a family member with ID who will stand there and say you're just fine, and always have been. And if you turn right around and blow away 10 people in a grocery store, that family member can be charged with aiding and abetting.
This would end.
No ID to vote = No ID to buy a gun. Both are Constitutional Rights.
Are you replying to the right person ? I could care less what pollical slant you have. I've stated some facts, nothing more.
Our current background checks would not flag any sort of mental health issues....why ? HIPAA laws.
The NRA has NEVER stated "let him buy an
automatic rifle. They are so lightweight, and fun to shoot! Get yours today!" They merely lobby to protect the rights of those that can legally own a firearm.
That is why I did not add quotation marks. It's called sarcasm. As in the truth in sarcasm.
The NRA did nothing, absolutely nothing to discourage people from buying guns. NRA TV
was flat out gun fetishizing. One commercial featured a young man slowly taking off his
clothes while deeply kissing a very attractive woman. All along the way, the young man
removed various guns ( several ) he had contained in his clothing. Anybody with an IQ
of a kitten would understand that the NRA was using sex appeal to sell guns. As in, she
will think you are hot and want to have sex with you if you are heavily armed with guns.
Did you ever watch NRA TV? P.S. You added the quotation marks to my sarcastic remark.
I did not quote or use quotation marks at all.
No ID to vote = No ID to buy a gun. Both are Constitutional Rights.
Democrats are illogical on IDs. They have repeated so many times that you shouldn't need an ID to exercise a constitutional right when voting, simply because the media propagandized that argument and they don't think, so they don't see how illogical it is.
We need IDs to exercise the following constitutional rights: buying a gun, traveling outside the country, running for office, etc.
Very shallow thinking.
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