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Old 03-23-2021, 09:54 AM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 18 days ago)
 
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Plenty of paranoid people don't commit mass shootings.
Anyone diagnosed with untreated paranoid schizophrenia, or exhibiting the symptoms for years, has zero business with an automatic weapon.

 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:55 AM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 18 days ago)
 
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Why in the ****ing hell do people not know what they are talking about? It's not, odds are, an automatic rifle.

As to the other question, due process of law. If the government wants to remove the rights of citizens, one takes them to court and proves the case.

So what court has said the people in question are mentally ill?



Well, keep in mind that the military doesn't used AR15s. And if the police have such weapons, so should the civilian population.
This guy? You think he should have been able to possess an AR15? While he's telling his sister the parking lot is full of people looking for him?
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Plenty of paranoid people don't commit mass shootings.
And several of them do. James Holmes in Aurora, CO was mentally ill. When police caught him he replied, "I am Joker."
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Anyone diagnosed with untreated paranoid schizophrenia, or exhibiting the symptoms for years, has zero business with an automatic weapon.
Well, it is not an automatic weapon.
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This guy? You think he should have been able to possess an AR15? While he's telling his sister the parking lot is full of people looking for him?
If a court has not removed his rights, then he should be able to possess. Due process of law.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:57 AM
 
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So again, why in the ****ing hell on earth are mentally ill people able to buy guns so easily and ruin the lives of others?

Daily Beast reports interviewed the shooter's older brother. Shooter was paranoid schitzo. NRA says, let him buy an
automatic rifle. They are so lightweight, and fun to shoot! Get yours today!
First off. Stop with the hyperbole. The NRA has said no such thing. Second, blame the HIPAA laws for not being able to determine if the person is mentally fit during the NICS background check.

It is unlawful to lie on the 4473, here's what the question on the form regarding mental health actually says, followed by the instructions:

" 11f. " have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?" (see instructions for question 11f.) "

"Question 11.f. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective: A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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You are saying it's terrorism based on just the name?
Well lets see, it wasn't white supremacy or a hate crime, as the guy wasn't white nor did he target any race.

That doesn't leave many options left aside from: domestic terrrorism

Looks like Biden has already failed to unite this country like he promised he would
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:58 AM
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Well, it is not an automatic weapon.
Semi-automatic.

Same point.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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So again, why in the ****ing hell on earth are mentally ill people able to buy guns so easily and ruin the lives of others?

Daily Beast reports interviewed the shooter's older brother. Shooter was paranoid schitzo. NRA says, let him buy an
automatic rifle. They are so lightweight, and fun to shoot! Get yours today!
People who commit crimes like murder aren’t going to follow gun laws anyway so does it matter?
 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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And THIS is why, before someone can purchase an AR15, they should have a family member swear they seem just fine, always have.

Actually no one outside of military or police need an AR15, so there's that.
Yep, just touching an AR15 turns someone into a psycho mass murderer.

 
Old 03-23-2021, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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And several of them do. James Holmes in Aurora, CO was mentally ill. When police caught him he replied, "I am Joker."
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Anyone diagnosed with untreated paranoid schizophrenia, or exhibiting the symptoms for years, has zero business with an automatic weapon.
This was domestic homegrown terrorism. You don't have to sugar coat it.
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