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Old 03-23-2021, 02:21 PM
 
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then WE (the US gov) need to stop interfering in those countries.
we need to stop the color revolutions, funding opposition groups, organizing coups, arming drug lords, purchasing drugs, installing puppet leaders in central/south america.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Latin_America

maybe then they will have a stable government that would enrich the lives on their citizens so that they don't have to flee their homeland.
"We" aren't our corrupt politicians and I'll be damned if Americans are going to continue to tolerate the invasion of our country because of any policies that they supposedly implemented! As I said, these people can and should rise up against their corrupt politicians but they lack the guts to do so they come here to take advantage of our innocent citizens and making victims out of them instead and there is no excuse for it no matter what you say! What about all of the tax dollars we send to those countries to help their citizens out? It does no good, does it? Enough is enough! Stop making lame excuses for these law breakers! I would never violate another country's borders and take from their citizens based on any so-called wrong doings by their government and make victims out of their innocent citizens! These people are selfish without a moral compass!

 
Old 03-23-2021, 02:28 PM
 
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we know our country is doomed when we have people that are still clinging to the idea that the election was illegitimate.
the irony is that we interfered in latin america countless times claiming democratically elected leaders were illegitimate and installed our own puppet regimes.
karma.. ain't that a *****.
It's sad.

We weren't the champions of democracy, we weren't the champions of the will of the people ... we were the champions of big money and the privileged class.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:09 PM
 
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It's sad.

We weren't the champions of democracy, we weren't the champions of the will of the people ... we were the champions of big money and the privileged class.
we are an plutocracy.
our rich and political class have been pitting us against each other (this forum is proof positive of that) and distracting us from the robber barrons that they are.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:13 PM
 
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"We" aren't our corrupt politicians and I'll be damned if Americans are going to continue to tolerate the invasion of our country because of any policies that they supposedly implemented! As I said, these people can and should rise up against their corrupt politicians but they lack the guts to do so they come here to take advantage of our innocent citizens and making victims out of them instead and there is no excuse for it no matter what you say! What about all of the tax dollars we send to those countries to help their citizens out? It does no good, does it? Enough is enough! Stop making lame excuses for these law breakers! I would never violate another country's borders and take from their citizens based on any so-called wrong doings by their government and make victims out of their innocent citizens! These people are selfish without a moral compass!
our system is broken. we can vote out the incumbent but the next party just comes in and continues with the status quo and nothing changes.
there is no reason for the wealthy and corporations, who are the ones that control the politicians, to vote away something that has benefited them so greatly.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:19 PM
 
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Another hoax.

It is a surge and it is being handled. We have had surges before, including when Trump was president and several in decades past.

No indication that they are destroying our country. If an angry mob attacking the capital building could't do it, no few thousands of hungry and desperate women and children can do it.

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It’s not being handled..do you live in Texas if you did you would see how bad it’s getting
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:23 PM
 
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Another hoax.

It is a surge and it is being handled. We have had surges before, including when Trump was president and several in decades past.

No indication that they are destroying our country. If an angry mob attacking the capital building could't do it, no few thousands of hungry and desperate women and children can do it.

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Yes, can’t have family gatherings, travel, eat out, go to Church, salons because they are covid spreaders, but allowing thousands of unverified illegals crossing our borders and basically saying come on in, doesn’t spread covid and perfectly ok.

Party of science a joke.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:32 PM
 
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our system is broken. we can vote out the incumbent but the next party just comes in and continues with the status quo and nothing changes.
there is no reason for the wealthy and corporations, who are the ones that control the politicians, to vote away something that has benefited them so greatly.
Our immigration system isn't broken it's just not being enforced as it should be. Those who benefit from illegal immigration, our politicians who aren't making sure our immigration laws are enforced and the illegals themselves need to be held accountable, equally! No rewards for any of them.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:34 PM
 
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Yes, can’t have family gatherings, travel, eat out, go to Church, salons because they are covid spreaders, but allowing thousands of unverified illegals crossing our borders and basically saying come on in, doesn’t spread covid and perfectly ok.

Party of science a joke.
Exactly! I already explained in another post how this surge is much larger than the Trump years and that it is being encouraged not discouraged as Trump did. You also brought up a good point that during the surge while Trump was president there was no pandemic going on.
 
Old 03-23-2021, 04:53 PM
 
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Another hoax.

It is a surge and it is being handled. We have had surges before, including when Trump was president and several in decades past.

No indication that they are destroying our country. If an angry mob attacking the capital building could't do it, no few thousands of hungry and desperate women and children can do it.

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So we should just do away with our immigration laws altogether and not even try to control the US border. Over 100,000 illegals poured into the US in just February alone. this does not bother you that our border enforcement and immigration laws are useless??
 
Old 03-23-2021, 05:01 PM
 
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Our immigration system isn't broken it's just not being enforced as it should be. Those who benefit from illegal immigration, our politicians who aren't making sure our immigration laws are enforced and the illegals themselves need to be held accountable, equally! No rewards for any of them.
i'd argue that it's very broken.
birthright citizenship, lottery system instead of merit based, lack of national ID system, employers hiring illegals off the books that entice them to come.

and then back to how we the united states destroyed south/central america with the monroe doctrine that makes their home country uninhabitable and therefore looking for better opportunity elsewhere. this goes back a very long time. the beginnings of this is not a recent phenomenon.

we are reaping what we sowed decades ago.
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