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Old 03-28-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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Wrong on pretty much everything you've stated.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/res...ass-shootings/
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I'm sue he won't open it so hear is what is says, "Although mass public shootings account for only 0.1 percent of the total firearm-related mortality between 2000 and 2014".


Don't know if there is connection but, "Timonium" is a place on the border of NW Baltimore.

Kinda' explains a lot about his posts!
I'll add this as well.
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Old 03-28-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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Only Citizens can vote. Citizens are granted privileges from their master government, not rights.
People have rights. It is not We The Citizens... and yes, the founders knew the difference, as citizen and person is used in the same sentence, in Articles 2 & 3.

Voting is not a right of all people. It is a privilege, only citizens are privileged to.
Owning a gun isn't a right of all people, but only citizens as well. Respond to the actual point I made, if possible, and try without copy/pasting from sovereign citizen websites.

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Didn't follow the last election I see.
You mean the election where the GOP legally lost a democratic election, and the GOP's response was to try to enact laws to restrict people's right to vote? That was my point
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:05 PM
 
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That is not necessarily true. Guns that are designed to hunt are not necessarily the same ones that are most effective for mass shootings, though there may be overlap.

Hunting deer or elk or pheasant does not require a automatic, or semi-automatic weapon with a 15 round clip. These types of weapons are best suited for mass casualties. The requirements of a weapon for deer hunting is far different than one for military usage. Completely different engineering. So, not merely cosmetic.

And the ease of converting a semi-automatic weapon to a large capacity clip and automatic firing would surprise many people. But, I tend to agree that it would be very hard at this point to keep a determined person from causing great harm with any modern firearm.
Respectfully, without any hostility and without any mockery, your post tells me you not very well-informed.

A "semi-automatic weapon" cannot be converted to a "clip."

"Automatic firing" - what the general public calls "machine guns" - is a functionality that the AR-15 as it exists in the civilian market, in various forms and formats and sold and marketed by dozens of manufacturers, does not have automatic firing - the technical term for this functionality is select fire.

The "forms and formats" I speak of includes variations such as: keymod vs. m-lock; freefloating vs. other handguards; iron sights vs. attachable/de-attachable optics; fixed vs. collapsible stocks; length of barrel; and, others. But NONE of these characteristics, whether added or removed from an AR-15, makes it capable of firing the way the M-16 (a rifle used by the U.S. military) can, with select fire.

It is furthermore illegal for the parts which are required for the AR-15 to be converted into a select fire weapon to be sold and owned by civilians. The fact that there are millions of privately owned AR-15 rifles and that there has been ZERO cases of a mass murder involving an AR-15 which was "modded" so that it had select fire capability speaks to how serious the government takes this and to the propensity of lawful gun owners not to break these laws.

I politely ask you to read post #444 which I wrote. It's not a plug. In that post I attempt to explain the "assault weapons" confusion and how the "hunting rifles" you speak of have essentially the same ballistics and thus the same capacity to inflict mass killing as the AR-15 which Dianne Feinstein's illogical, confusing, and ultimately ludicrous bill seeks to outlaw by name of manufacturer and model.

Finally, I ask you. If the bill by Feinstein is going to grandfather every single existing legally owned AR-15 which is currently lawfully owned by Americans, what makes her or any other person who supports the bill that even if it is passed into law, that one of these lawful gun owners won't one day use it for evil purposes?

Government and laws cannot erase evil. Laws can warn and certainly if implemented, they can punish evil. But laws on paper can't stop people from doing evil things. There are laws imposing strict sanctions on adults who sexually abuse children. But why do pedophiles exist?

Replace "sexually abuse children/pedophiles" with things like burglary, arson, robbery, assault, and rape. All these are illegal and perpetrators are punished. But why do people perpetrate to begin with if the law punishes perpetrators?
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:12 PM
 
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Get a grip people. No one is coming for your guns.
Some
Democrats would disagree with you.
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:13 PM
 
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At the very minimum an AR-15 ban since they are used in pretty much every mass shooting.

The mouth breathers will come back with well hand guns kill the most. Yes they kill the most in BAD, usually ghetto neighborhoods.

These mass shootings are in nice areas where you don't expect any kind of crime of that magnitude. That's the difference.

The AR-15 especially is the gun because you can mow down so many more people.

Australia hasnt had a mass shooting since their ban
I don't think you know what a mass shooting is defined as, nor do you know what kind of firearm is used most often in the U.S. in criminal homicides.
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:36 PM
 
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Naturally, someone with the mindset to blow away ten shoppers in a grocery store, isn't the kind of person who would obey new laws saying you can't buy the kind of gun he used. Only people who obey laws, would be affected by it. And they're not the ones causing the problem.

Never mind that the last so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" had no effect on the murder rate when it was in effect. Apparently Biden thinks it worked so well, that he wants to do it again.

Like a trained dog that salivates when you ring a bell, whenever some criminals nutcase shoots innocent people, the liberals react by restricting the guns of law-abiding citizens.

Remind me again, why we keep voting the trained dogs into office?
Has anybody even asked Joe Biden whether he actually expects his new "gun control" laws to be obeyed by people who don't obey laws?

And whether he really thinks laws that restrict only the law-abiding, will help control muggers, robbers, home invaders, and murderers?
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:23 PM
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Do you remember?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_LEfNFMAys

and for ships and giggles...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo
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Old 03-29-2021, 04:37 AM
 
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So everyone needs to pack heat when venturing outside to protect themselves from mentally ill mass shooters?
Explain how a registry protects you from mass shooters...…… or anything else for that matter. Be specific and go in depth.
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Old 03-29-2021, 01:44 PM
 
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Banning assault rifles will save lives plain and simple. If anyone doesn't believe that, take your head out of the sand.
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Old 03-29-2021, 01:46 PM
 
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Banning assault rifles will save lives plain and simple. If anyone doesn't believe that, take your head out of the sand.
But they are used far less often than knives and handguns every single year in the U.S. in criminal homicides.

Do you also favor the banning of handguns and of knives? If yes, have fun slicing your steak or filleting your fish with a spoon.
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