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Old 09-16-2021, 02:34 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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As bad as Bush II was, he handled 911 well.


Imagine Trump handling 911 like he handled covid: Insisting it was a hoax, the death numbers from the towers falling were overreported to make him look bad, the entire attack was a plot to make him look bad....
Trump has lied like a dog about 9/11. Claiming he saw thousands of Muslims dancing on the rooftops in Jersey City (debunked by the Jersey City police). Claiming he went down to ground zero with a crew of his employees to "help out", only there is not a single witness who saw Trump anywhere near ground zero until a week later and several blocks away when he did a photo-op for a German magazine. What kind of man uses a tragedy and catastrophe like 9/11 as an opportunity for publicity and self-promotion?

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Old 09-16-2021, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Homeless...
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Go back to school please.

Reagan (you spelled it wrong)....won the cold war without firing a shot. I think that would deserve higher than an F.
Is this some sort of a joke?
Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union by inventing modern deficit spending which will ultimately bankrupt us too.

Regardless, his administration was as criminal as any ever has been and his wife did more damage to America and its youth with her anti-drug crusade than can ever be known. I have no regard for either of them.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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How do you remember it? Obama saying during his campaign that he wanted to unify the nation? Obama saying that a year in, he still had not but wanted to unite people on common American values? Obama trying for 8 years and failing, because the country is too far gone to be re-united perhaps?
How do I remember Obama? I remember him gloating about ramming the ACA through Congress without even making an attempt to gain any Republican support. "I won" and "elections have consequences" were his sneering rejoinders. I remember him automatically taking the side of the black person in any conflict involving a white person, regardless of who may have been at fault. "The Cambridge police acted stupidly." "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." I remember him talking trash and tarnishing the dignity of his office. "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." What I don't remember is Obama saying or doing ANYTHING to help unify the country along racial or political lines.


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Which is interesting later now how people reacted towards Obama. I used to go to church, and I never heard such liberal use of the N Word amongst people there when referring to the President. I said many times that the behavior was so deplorable, so racist, that Jesus was probably turning over in his grave.
If you had been paying attention in church, you would know that Jesus' grave is empty.

It's unfortunate that you had to hear such negative language from people, especially in church. FWIW, I never once heard Obama referred to in that manner from any of my friends, including some who are staunch conservatives.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union by inventing modern deficit spending which will ultimately bankrupt us too.

Regardless, his administration was as criminal as any ever has been and his wife did more damage to America and its youth with her anti-drug crusade than can ever be known. I have no regard for either of them.
I honestly don't know what you mean here. One can say that preaching abstinence ("just say no") might be ineffective, but how can refraining from drug use actually be harmful?
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:52 PM
 
Location: USA
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I honestly don't know what you mean here. One can say that preaching abstinence ("just say no") might be ineffective, but how can refraining from drug use actually be harmful?

The War on Drugs was almost as big of a debacle as the War on Terror. It cost us nearly as much, and we're still paying it off. Reagan was the biggest proponent of it, though not the only guilty one.
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Old 09-16-2021, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The War on Drugs was almost as big of a debacle as the War on Terror. It cost us nearly as much, and we're still paying it off. Reagan was the biggest proponent of it, though not the only guilty one.
Actually, drug use among kids decreased in the late-1980s.
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Old 09-17-2021, 04:30 AM
 
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F D Roosevelt -- A
Truman -- C
Eisenhower -- A
Kennedy -- C
Johnson -- D
Nixon -- B
Ford -- Inc.
Carter -- B
Reagan -- F
Bush -- D
Clinton --D
Bush -- F
Obama -- D
Trump -- B
Biden -- Inc.
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Old 09-17-2021, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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Reagan - C+
Bush 41 - C
Clinton - D+
Bush 43 - D-
Obama - D
Trump - B
Biden - F
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Old 09-29-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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Carter D-
Reagan B-
Bush Sr. C-
Clinton F
Bush Jr. F
Obama F
Trump D
Biden F

First gut instinct grades. I feel like the country has been on the wrong track for awhile so I am grading harshly.
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Old 09-29-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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Nixon -- C
Ford -- C
Carter -- D
Reagan -- B
Bush Sr -- C
Clinton --C
Bush -- D
Obama -- C
Trump -- D
Biden -- too early, but a D right now
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