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Old 03-24-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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The GOP is not helpless -- it can change and gain wider support if it would face reality. The country has no interest in going to the 19th century with you.

That is a non-answer. It is clear what the democrats are trying to do.
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Old 03-24-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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The GOP is not helpless -- it can change and gain wider support if it would face reality. The country has no interest in going to the 19th century with you.

Are you going to write a check for $105,000 for your share of the debt or will you wait until the radical democrats at $3 trillion more?
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Old 03-24-2021, 02:36 PM
 
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This whole "power grab" or not debate is beside the point. Republicans play by one set of rules, and Democrats another. What was the precedent for McConnell blocking Merrick Garland, then eliminating the filibuster to jam through Gorsuch? It was unprecedented, and unpopular, but the GOP rationale, just like with Amy Coney Barrett, that in the long run, short term negative impacts are outweighed by the truth that SCOTUS is now deep red for a generation.

Democrats should learn from this. Eliminating the filibuster is not unpopular. People don't care about filibusters, they care about results. There are political and practical reasons to admit DC and PR. They should not be discounted. Remember, Republicans admitted a score of states in the West in the late 19th century to counterbalance Jim Crow destroying the southern Republican voting bloc (i.e. the South stopped letting Black people vote, and Republicans lost big in the South as a result). We have admitted states in the past for the very reason Democrats want to admit DC and PR. There is precedent. Most Americans agree DC should be a state. The GOP platform supports statehood for Puerto Rico for Pete's sake. There is nothing stopping Democrats from doing this, other than fear of their own shadows.

So that makes it right? That is how children think! The only reason the Democrats want PR and DC to be states is so the can hold on to power for the foreseeable future. This is not about what is good for the American people.
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Old 03-24-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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So that makes it right? That is how children think! The only reason the Democrats want PR and DC to be states is so the can hold on to power for the foreseeable future. This is not about what is good for the American people.
No, this is not what’s good for the Republican Party.

The route to power for the Republican Party is to limit who has the right to vote. If high numbers of eligible voters do in fact vote, and the voting tendencies of the growing demographic groups continues unabated, the GOP has a dim future.
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:19 PM
 
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Biden campaigned (if you can call it that) on the promise to "unify" and has done everything he can to divide.


Yes, this is what has been going on since 1-20-21.
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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No, this is not what’s good for the Republican Party.

The route to power for the Republican Party is to limit who has the right to vote. If high numbers of eligible voters do in fact vote, and the voting tendencies of the growing demographic groups continues unabated, the GOP has a dim future.

The Democrats path to power is to get a large number of voters would would not make the effort to vote. They want all the people who think the biased media is giving them "news" to vote.
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:26 PM
 
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Yes, this is what has been going on since 1-20-21.

He is the most divisive president in our lifetimes.
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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No, this is not what’s good for the Republican Party.

The route to power for the Republican Party is to limit who has the right to vote. If high numbers of eligible voters do in fact vote, and the voting tendencies of the growing demographic groups continues unabated, the GOP has a dim future.

I see you picked a great name. So you are getting a piece of the $105,000 each man, woman, and child now is in debt? Are you getting a piece of the over $22,000 every family of four owes for the last "stimulus".
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:29 PM
 
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The Democrats path to power is to get a large number of voters would would not make the effort to vote. They want all the people who think the biased media is giving them "news" to vote.
It’s not the Democrats who are placing obstacles to limit voting in state after state.
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:42 PM
 
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It’s not the Democrats who are placing obstacles to limit voting in state after state.

No, the democrats are trying to get the people who would never make the effort to vote because they know that is a democrat vote.
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