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If Chauvin hadn’t actively denied Floyd medical attention and basic aid at the scene, when Floyd was under his custody, Floyd very well could be getting a stent and going to substance rehab now. But I guess we’ll never know. Chauvin made SURE we would never know.
Hullooo! Chauvin was not Floyd's primary care physician at the time. He was a police officer assisting his fellow officers to make an arrest.
Technically, Floyd was not under Chauvin's custody because it was Officer Lane who cuffed Floyd and made the arrest.
He was also high on fentanyl, which an officer successfully guessed on video as a contributing factor to paranoia, hallucinations, and resisting arrest.
See, normal folks don't resist arrest. They just take it, make bail, and live to see another day. GF was not normal, he was high.
Normal folks struggle when they can’t breathe.
In proper experience-based training, normal folks learn or already know it’s a medical emergency when someone says they can’t breathe.
A reasonable person would believe someone when they say they can’t breathe, particularly when the person is face down on their stomach, handcuffed, & with 3 men preventing the person from taking a breath.
Hullooo! Chauvin was not Floyd's primary care physician at the time. He was a police officer assisting his fellow officers to make an arrest.
Technically, Floyd was not under Chauvin's custody because it was Officer Lane who cuffed Floyd and made the arrest.
No one is asking Chauvin to be Floyd’s physician. Reasonable expectation is for Chauvin to not kneel on an unconscious victim and deny the victim critical aid on scene.
The legal question for the jury to decide in the above charge is:
Did Derek Michael Chauvin cause the death of George Floyd by his culpable negligence, thereby creating an unreasonable risk and taking a chance of causing death or great bodily harm to George Floyd?
If you frame the question this way, the jury would have to declare Chauvin not guilty. Chauvin was a police officer doing his job to assist in making an arrest of a suspect. He has no responsibility to determine the health condition of the suspect and use prescribed department procedures for detaining suspects with pre-existing conditions.
The police department has no procedures for dealing with sickly suspects. Sue them and let Chauvin go.
If Chauvin hadn’t actively denied Floyd medical attention and basic aid at the scene, when Floyd was under his custody, Floyd very well could be getting a stent and going to substance rehab now. But I guess we’ll never know. Chauvin made SURE we would never know.
Do you happen to know if the MPD or other police departments have policies re accepting medical help from bystanders ? I can see potential benefits, but then again, how do you know the bystander's actual qualifications, if the offer is from a crackpot, or what happens if the bystander is injured by the suspect.
No one is asking Chauvin to be Floyd’s physician. Reasonable expectation is for Chauvin to not kneel on an unconscious victim and deny the victim critical aid on scene.
You’re welcome.
No police officer were denying Floyd critical aid. They called for medics and restrained their suspect, namely Floyd, until the ambulance arrived.
If you frame the question this way, the jury would have to declare Chauvin not guilty. Chauvin was a police officer doing his job to assist in making an arrest of a suspect. He has no responsibility to determine the health condition of the suspect and use prescribed department procedures for detaining suspects with pre-existing conditions.
The police department has no procedures for dealing with sickly suspects. Sue them and let Chauvin go.
LOL. No. He went rogue. The chief and others testified to that. Reasonable observers questioned him, including the dispatch who called her superior immediately after the incident. He is a danger to the community and he will hopefully be locked up, where every inmate knows he is the ex-cop who killed Floyd.
No police officer were denying Floyd critical aid. They called for medics and restrained their suspect, namely Floyd, until the ambulance arrived.
Yes, Chauvin restrained a pulseless suspect and prevented aid to the victim until the medics arrived. This was not contested by the defense and we can all agree on that.
Do you happen to know if the MPD or other police departments have policies re accepting medical help from bystanders ? I can see potential benefits, but then again, how do you know the bystander's actual qualifications, if the offer is from a crackpot, or what happens if the bystander is injured by the suspect.
Excellent observations. Busybodies are always driven away by cops from scenes of police operations in progress.
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