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MINNEAPOLIS — New documents filed in the George Floyd case give new information about the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's findings in Floyd's autopsy.
Handwritten notes of a law enforcement interview with Dr. Andrew Baker, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, say Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system.
In another new document, Baker said, "That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances."
I'm an anesthesiologist so I know a thing or two about administration of Fentanyl and the effects of such. I suspect you haven't practiced clinically for many years.
I'm an anesthesiologist so I know a thing or two about administration of Fentanyl and the effects of such. I suspect you haven't practiced clinically for many years.
You were factually wrong in your first post in this thread and I linked to an article proving it. You are not who you say you are, or you are thinking politically and not with your brain.
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Being a medical professional that administers Fentanyl daily to patients, I can unequivocally tell you the Floyd did not die from an overdose of Fentanyl.
An individual who overdosed on Fentanyl would be unresponsive almost immediately after the ingestion/injection.
The "froth" coming from his mouth was due to his heart stopping while he was prone.
This is not true.
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The researchers asked the respondents to describe what happened during a suspected fentanyl overdose. The most common characteristic, described in 20 percent of the cases, was that the person's lips immediately turned blue, followed by gurgling sounds with breathing (16 percent of the cases), stiffening of the body or seizure-like activity (13 percent), foaming at the mouth (6 percent) and confusion or strange behavior before the person became unresponsive (6 percent), according to the report.
No, they don't instantly become unresponsive. They have trouble breathing - Floyd complained about not being able to breathe BEFORE a single cop touched him and SIX TIMES BEFORE he was pinned.
Contrary to what you say Fentanyl overdoses can cause foaming at the mouth and strange activity - both of which Floyd had.
Floyd had pulmonary edema, which can be caused by a fentanyl overdose.
You do realize, that this says if they found that level of fentanyl in a person's system, and had no other information about what could possibly have caused his death, fentanyl would be blamed as a default musta been.
But. What about if they knew someone had put his adult weight on the deceased's neck for 9 minutes? Then would the findings be different? Well, yes.
That's how autopsies often work. They find something that ... may have killed someone, and in the absense of ANY OTHER EXPLANATION, decide that must be cause of death.
The toxicology report of George Floyd showed that he had 11ng/cc concentration of fentanyl in his blood stream, as well as metabolites of fentanyl. The officers at the scene reported that Floyd had "froth coming from his mouth", which is consistent with pulmonary edema caused by a massive ingestion of fentanyl. In addition, his autopsy showed marked pulmonary edema, consistent with a fentanyl overdose.
I do reviews of cases for attorneys (malpractice cases for the defense) in addition to my medical practice and so have some legal exposure. Objectively, Floyd died of a drug overdose and there would have been nothing on the planet that could have saved him, except for rapid intubation and reversal of the drug with narcan.
Now FLoyd was a big man. Securing his airway, even by someone skilled in intubation, would have been difficult. In addition, he would have been very difficult to ventilate with marked pulmonary edema, and it would have been likely that he would have expired even with a skilled physician or EMT immediately securing his airway.
One would expect that justice will not be served and the arrested officers will be sacrificed on the alter of political correctness to prevent nationwide rioting. However, the fact of the matter is that Floyd died of an overdose, not the acts of the police.
It is entirely possible that fentanyl was the cause of death. But one thing is indisputable - kneeling on Floyd’s neck for 15 minutes certainly did not help him. When police arrest someone they assume responsibility for that person’s well being. If the arrestee is having a medical emergency, the police are obligated to get medical help. Had Officer Chauvin done so, Floyd’s life may have been saved. By kneeling on his neck, Chauvin ensured that the medical problem was fatal.
Floyd was pronounced dead at the hospital. He was clearly dead when they put Floyd on the stretcher for transport to the hospital.
Nope, he definitely died at the hospital. This man was 6’8”, it’s going to take more than a knee on the neck to kill him, which is what the fetanyl did
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