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Old 04-19-2021, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It is certainly a precarious time. To think about how bad things got this summer; depending on the verdict, the aftermath could be historic.

 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:18 PM
 
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I would be vastly interested in your take on the Elijah McClain case.
I don't know much about it, but from what I've read it was a little guy who was choked out and then shot up with too much ketamine. It's hard to imagine that being necessary to restrain an unarmed 140 lb person.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Zero role! Even the defense claims Floyd was coherent up until the time his heart stopped.
Lol, so just ignore science then?
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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He was dying of a heart attack brought on by drugs he swallowed, there was really nothing that could be done for him. I just wouldn't have done anything that would look bad on film so that I wouldn't get blamed for his heart attack.
You sure? That medically there was not anything that can be done?

Heart arrest is the ceasing of the heart pumping. No electrical current.
A heart attack is not the exact same definition. Even a pathologist said a heart attack would show that damage during the attack.

I can tell you, that putting someone in the prone position and pressurizing their midsection is NOT helping a person in duress.

Been to er's where remedies are made.
They don't wait til there is no pulse.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:21 PM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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I am not delighted about anything. I don't really care about Floyd. I don't think that he is no longer with us is any great loss. What's a tragedy is how many people will be killed or their businesses will be ruined forever due to the left's racebaiting.
It's Funny because i don't really care about Chauvin, and I hope his Racist @@@ Rots in Jail, as well as all those, racist, Insurrectionist Traders on Jan 6.

God Bless Our President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:24 PM
 
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You sure? That medically there was not anything that can be done?

I can tell you, that putting someone in the prone position and pressurizing their midsection is NOT helping a person in duress.

Been to er's where remedies are made.
They don't wait til there is no pulse.
Dying from a heart attack brought on by a drug cocktail including an overdose of Fentanyl is going to happen no matter how you are restraining the person, the only thing that's going to really help them is a hospital.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:28 PM
 
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I don't know much about it, but from what I've read it was a little guy who was choked out and then shot up with too much ketamine. It's hard to imagine that being necessary to restrain an unarmed 140 lb person.
Your homework assignment: Dig up dirt on the little unarmed guy and make a case on how he is a piece of garbage.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Me too. I always thought that the words " I can't breathe" were when the knee was on the neck....watching the video where he says it in the back seat of the car....changed my opinion.
Changed your opinion from what?

This is one of your previous posts here:

Wintergirl80;60782511] Post #1903

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This is one reason I have little sympathy for Floyd. Maybe what happened to him - - was his karma.

also someone that continuously does drugs including numerous overdoses is in fact risking their own life. Eventually that catches up with you.

Regarding Derek Chauvin Did he use excessive force YES but did he deliberately end Floyd's life. I'd say NO.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Regardless of where you stand on this:
  1. There is no possible way that Chauvin gets a fair trial here. The threat of violence against the jury and witnesses is too blatant and it's only going to get worse.
  2. BLM riots no matter the outcome.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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He was dying of a heart attack brought on by drugs he swallowed, there was really nothing that could be done for him. I just wouldn't have done anything that would look bad on film so that I wouldn't get blamed for his heart attack.
Fentanyl actually has a protective effect on the heart. That is why it has been used in very high amounts for patients having cardiac bypass surgery.

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Fentanyl is one opioid that has been closely linked to inflammatory mediators and myocardial protection. It reduces the CPB-induced inflammatory response and ischaemic reperfusion injury during cardiac surgery.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...0al.%2C%202005).
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