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Chauvin should have been more careful, and he should be charged with something. But I agree, it does not seem to be any kind of murder. And as far as anyone knows at this point, there was no racism involved.
It was bizarre how riots errupted, as if it were known for sure that Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd because of his race.
Agreed. I don't think it was race. But foul play by Chauvin. Chauvin needs to get some prison time.
They overcharge in these cases, for a reason. Not Guilty.
They play the stupid public, like a fiddle to get their way.
YA! Throw the book at him!... oops.
He would do time on a lesser charge and be convicted. Certain criteria have to be met to meet the charge. They don't have it for the charge.
This. It seems like every single high profile cases goes this way. DA charges above what he knows he can prove in court because otherwise there would be marches on the mayor's office demanding more. A decent defense attorney comes in and blows holes in the case, sewing reasonable doubt. Criminal prosecution is all about playing the odds; a lower charge almost always results in a conviction and demand for maximum sentence under that charge. It's at least something instead of watching the defendant walk.
If they actually manage to secure a conviction, I predict an overturn on appeal. Defense will cite the politically charged prosecution, a jury tainted by the previously settled $27 million lawsuit, a venue in which it would be nearly impossible to find 12 impartial jurors who haven't been flooded with "facts" of the case through news and social media over the past year, or even a jury which may be afraid to acquit for its own safety. Just one comment from a juror to a news outlet or on social media about doubt in the case will sink them on appeal.
Chauvin should have been more careful, and he should be charged with something. But I agree, it does not seem to be any kind of murder. And as far as anyone knows at this point, there was no racism involved.
It was bizarre how riots errupted, as if it were known for sure that Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd because of his race.
Chauvin should not be charged at all.....he was doing his job.
I do not believe he will be found not guilty. I think they are going to convict him of manslaughter. The jury will be too scared that the country will burn. They will settle on manslaughter. Chauvin will be sacrificed for peace. Just watch!
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I agree with this 100%. It’s sad that somebody will be sacrificed for a fear of “what might happen.”
I think the jury will either be hung or convict on the lesser charge to protect themselves and their families. Their names might get out there since the city is so corrupt.
I am calling it out now - they have to find him guilty or leftist insurrectionists will destroy billions in kill dozens like they did for months on end in 2020.
Look at this forum. Are there any leftists that care about:
(1) Murder REQUIRES that you intended to kill and you did kill beyond a reasonable doubt.
(2) Scientific facts of what a lethal dose of Fentanyl does for side effects and that Floyd had a lethal dose, which would also create a reasonable doubt that Chauvin killed him.
(3) Facts of the video about when Floyd first was foaming at the mouth and complaining about not being able to breathe linking back to the reasonable doubt that the lethal dose was killing the unhealthy man.
(4) Facts of the police are specifically told to pin a suspect on their belly when they are foaming so they can't choke on their own liquids. Floyd also had zero bruising on his neck and back/shoulders. If Chauvin was really trying to "snuff him out" or "torture" him as leftists say, why didn't it leave any bruising? Why would Chauvin do this knowing half a dozen cameras were on him and while it was Chauvin himself that countermanded the other officer to speed up the ambulance BEFORE Floyd passed out.
The left has created a scenario where science is denied, facts in the video are denied, rule of law is denied, and facts from the autopsy are denied. The left is as anti-science as one can get in the Floyd case.
If they were doing their job correctly then why did all 4 of them get fired?
Have you seen the political left in this country committing mass insurrection across the land while their political leaders enabled it? Billions in property damage, looting, arson, dozens dead, spiking crime rates. Have you seen the left deny science over and over again.
You have jojan here pretending to be a medical professional while blatantly denying the science behind the side effects of a fentanyl overdose and denying the timeline of events of when the mouth started foaming in the video and when Floyd complained he couldn't breathe as well.
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Originally Posted by lvmensch
You folk keep misstating the findings on Fentanyl. There is no finding that it was a lethal dose. What is claimed is such a dose could be lethal...not that it was lethal. So it could also be non lethal. And that is how it is treated in the autopsy report - potentially a contributor to Floyd's problem.
The left is as anti-science as one can get with the Floyd case. I've had to post this over and over again, because the left denies science.
Floyd was extremely unhealthy and not even under normal circumstances, he had severe heart disease, hypertension and arteries that were mostly blocked.
Here is the unenviable position the 12 jurors will find themselves in when deliberating. For Chauvin's safety, it might be in the best interest to convict. If they acquit, then they signed a death warrant for Chauvin and in effect sentenced him to death. Chauvin will be lynched, bludgeoned, shot or choked to death if he walks. You really think people will accept the results if they acquit Chauvin?
No fan of what I saw of Chauvin but I think conviction is unlikely. If he's acquitted, probably should leave the USA for sure. If he's jailed in a prison, he'll definitely be killed in prison.
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