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Old 03-25-2021, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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They'll never prove that Chauvin murdered GF. They may be able to prove a negligent standard but definitely not intent to kill. Even if they were able to prove intent to kill, the defense will be able to establish, with expert opinion, enough doubt that drugs killed GF rather than any action by Chauvin to prevent a conviction.
Without the knee, he would have survived.

 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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GF is guilty of ingesting illegal drugs, resisting arrest, disobeying an officer, and passing counterfeit currency. There is no way out of that.
None of that killed him.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Without the knee, he would have survived.
Without passing counterfeit currency, resisting arrest,and taking drugs, he would have survived.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Without passing counterfeit currency, resisting arrest,and taking drugs, he would have survived.
sorry you can't shame him into a homicide.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:13 AM
 
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The action which ended his life was none of those. The action which killed him was the knee of his neck which partially collapsed his airway, compressed his lungs into the ground and ultimately caused a decrease in oxygen to his heart which then failed.

That is the definition of homicide.
You don't know that. If you look at the video, the officer is not putting much pressure on him. It at least appears that way. I'm sure that will be sorted out in the trial. I'll wait for that decision. None of us have all the facts, regardless of how much we claim to. Wait for the trial.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:14 AM
 
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sorry you can't shame him into a homicide.
You both are right. 50-50 blame from the appearance. Again, none of us know all the facts. Wait for the trial. Will you accept the verdict regardless of which way it goes?
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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None of that killed him.
The autopsy begs to differ.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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You don't know that. If you look at the video, the officer is not putting much pressure on him. It at least appears that way. I'm sure that will be sorted out in the trial. I'll wait for that decision. None of us have all the facts, regardless of how much we claim to. Wait for the trial.
The end point for all of the officers is that they must live with it. They killed a man they were sworn to protect

and deep within them where no one talks about they have to live with that reality.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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Without passing counterfeit currency, resisting arrest,and taking drugs, he would have survived.
Possessing Fentanyl is restricted to those who get it thru a doctor...why is such a powerful dangerous drug so readily available?
 
Old 03-25-2021, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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sorry you can't shame him into a homicide.
Sorry you think taking fentanyl is healthy.
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