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Old 03-31-2021, 04:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
BS-

Given his serum levels of fentanyl, he was a walking dead man.

There is nothing that could have saved Floyd from his death, with the exception of the cops being skilled at intubation, placement of IVs, and giving naloxone. Of course, they carry none of the things required for the above and have none of the skills necessary to use those objects even if they had them.
Again the officer escalated thru force.
During the original questioning by the officers the subject was able to answer clearly and accurately information. If he was (as you falsely claimed so doped up), his speech would slur his ability to respond would have been indicators that his body was going into asyphasia . He was alert in the store , alert in questioning, and miraculous dead by the time the EMTs arrived. The body was transported to the hospital for an order of decease by the medical attendant. Since only a coronor or medical license can make that final determination. .
Only an unreasonable person that victim blames would conclude the officer chauvin was not culpable.

 
Old 03-31-2021, 04:22 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN
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I don't understand why you are citing Georgia's definitions. George Floyd died in Minnesota. Minnesota's laws regarding homicide differ from Georgia's.
Excellent point! The poster seems to think that since the autopsy indicates homicide that the jury should find the defendant guilty. I’m just trying to point out, legally, that is not necessarily going to happen.


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From your link:
“Homicide” in medical terms means that the death is caused by either direct or indirect
actions of another person or persons.

You don't believe that?
I’m not arguing that point Donna. We’re arguing two different points. From your previous comments, you seem to be under the impression that the jury will find him guilty because the autopsy is labeled homicide. That is not necessarily going to happen. You appear to be hyper focused on your own point and seem to be unable to separate the two points.
 
Old 03-31-2021, 04:27 PM
 
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Floyd said he couldn`t get a the police car because he was claustrophobic. That was bs. I can`t wait for the defense`s turn.
Yes. It agree it was BS. As such, there was no other solution but killing him. If you don’t get into the cruiser, the other option is capital punishment. George Floyd was given a choice....

As for the trial, the outcome is clear. (Same as in all other cases): “Qualified Immunity”. Enough said.
 
Old 03-31-2021, 04:48 PM
 
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The most significant contributor, for which Officer Chauvin stands trial, has not been disproved by his defense team. Adding side show theories about pharmacology does not introduce doubt about Chauvin's actions and involvement in those critical 9 minutes and 29 seconds. Hope this helps.
It's a strange world when you step through a twisted looking glass of media spin into a black-and-white parody of reality.

In the real world, if a strong toxicological case can be made, that will most likely have bearing on the ruling. It doesn't necessarily need to proven as the dominant cause. So too will circumstantial evidence such as that below.

New footage appears to show George Floyd under the influence before arrest | Rumble Video
 
Old 03-31-2021, 04:54 PM
 
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Yes. It agree it was BS. As such, there was no other solution but killing him. If you don’t get into the cruiser, the other option is capital punishment. George Floyd was given a choice....

As for the trial, the outcome is clear. (Same as in all other cases): “Qualified Immunity”. Enough said.
No Floyd killed himself, with all the drugs, tired of all these criminals, who`s right come first.
 
Old 03-31-2021, 05:14 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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I do Jiu Jitsu, and I cannot even recall the last time I had a bruise around my neck, and we do plenty of things that involve the neck.
So what you're saying is you don't see neck bruising in Jiu Jitsu because you are not trying to asphyxiate the other person.

Are you then suggesting Floyd did not have neck bruising because Chauvin was not trying to asphyxiate him?
 
Old 03-31-2021, 05:41 PM
 
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If you don’t get into the cruiser, the other option is capital punishment. George Floyd was given a choice....
If a police officer acts on such belief they are violating the law and would go to prison for murder
 
Old 03-31-2021, 05:59 PM
 
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If a police officer acts on such belief they are violating the law and would go to prison for murder
Sir, you forget “qualified immunity” in addition to police unions agreements. It is written clearly that they bear no individual responsibility what so ever. As such juries all over the nation cannot convict an officer against these laws. You can see the some outcome in endless cases that went to trial. The accused officer was acquitted because there is no personal responsibility. The only other option is if the prosecution can prove there was premeditated intention. That means proving that Chauvin planned killing George Floyd before he put on his uniform at home. That can never be proved.
 
Old 03-31-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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No Floyd killed himself, with all the drugs, tired of all these criminals, who`s right come first.
So keeping a knee on his neck for 9 min(!) didn’t cause death? In another post I suggested an experiment: putting Chauvin in chokehold for nine minutes. If he survives then you’re probably right - George Floyd died of unrelated causes. But in case of death, Chauvin will die knowing that non lethal police procedures were followed. Let’s see how he fares after 9 minutes with a knee on his neck.
 
Old 03-31-2021, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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It's a strange world when you step through a twisted looking glass of media spin into a black-and-white parody of reality.

In the real world, if a strong toxicological case can be made, that will most likely have bearing on the ruling. It doesn't necessarily need to proven as the dominant cause. So too will circumstantial evidence such as that below.

New footage appears to show George Floyd under the influence before arrest | Rumble Video
Yeah its a point nobody seems to want to discuss - - a lot happened WAY BEFORE Floyd was restrained on the pavement. He fought aggressively and refused to get into the squad car and kept saying he couldn't breathe, before he was lying on the ground in restraint. That evidence was presented today in the bodycam by one of the police officers. Seems to be significant information for this case.
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