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So what you're saying is you don't see neck bruising in Jiu Jitsu because you are not trying to asphyxiate the other person.
Are you then suggesting Floyd did not have neck bruising because Chauvin was not trying to asphyxiate him?
Ive been choked unconscious, and choked other people out. No bruises. If you do it with your hands the pressure points of your fingers tend to leave bruises.
Mr. Floyd didn't die of an overdose. He died as a result of the cop leaning on his ****ing neck for almost 10 damn minutes!!
When you see the list of drugs in Floyd’s system it kind of blows the mind of a normal person. While rare, people have overdosed on as little as 3 ng/mL of fentanyl and Floyd had 11 ng/mL. When you take into consideration the health complications, the complications of mixing drugs, the 2019 arrest that sent him to the hospital, the breathing issues that started before Chauvin touched him, and the fact that he was shoving pills in his mouth when police were there, I don’t see how any halfway decent defense attorney wouldn’t be able to show there’s reasonable doubt regarding what killed Floyd.
I believe one of the passengers in Floyd’s car is going to testify for the defense. It seems Floyd was so intoxicated that he passed out in the car and the passengers had to call for a ride home before police even got there.
The autopsy showing absolutely no damage to Floyd’s neck isn’t going to help either. How does someone put enough pressure on someone’s neck to kill them, but not leave so much as a mark or bruise or anything?
Ive been choked unconscious, and choked other people out. No bruises. If you do it with your hands the pressure points of your fingers tend to leave bruises.
People are claiming asphyxiation with one knee until the point of death. You think that might leave a little something in an autopsy.
Given his serum levels of fentanyl, he was a walking dead man.
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So he was going to die anyway but the cops just happened to be there at the exact moment?
An autopsy on Floyd conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office
last month concluded that Floyd "became unresponsive while being
restrained by law enforcement officers" and died as a result of
"cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."
^^ does not say overdose
A person that is overdosing on fentanyl may exhibit the following signs and symptoms:
Low blood pressure Drowsiness Dizziness
Nausea and vomiting
Limp body
Changes in pupillary size
Cold and clammy skin
Blue colored lips and fingernails (cyanosis)
Slowed or stopped breathing
Decreased heart rate
Reduced or loss of consciousness
Coma
As explained in the video below opioid addicts can build up a tolerance higher than what would be more dangerous to a non-user.
As we see above symptoms above include drowsiness and dizziness and Floyd's behavior was quite the opposite
KARE 11 Investigates: Evidence details fentanyl levels in Floyd’s body
If you don’t get into the cruiser, the other option is capital punishment. George Floyd was given a choice....
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Originally Posted by oberon_1
Sir, you forget “qualified immunity” in addition to police unions agreements. It is written clearly that they bear no individual responsibility what so ever. As such juries all over the nation cannot convict an officer against these laws. You can see the some outcome in endless cases that went to trial. The accused officer was acquitted because there is no personal responsibility. The only other option is if the prosecution can prove there was premeditated intention. That means proving that Chauvin planned killing George Floyd before he put on his uniform at home. That can never be proved.
Are you saying that if there was a bodycam audio recording of a police officer saying to a suspect :
"get into the car or we will kill you"
that that would be protected by qualified immunity?
So keeping a knee on his neck for 9 min(!) didn’t cause death? In another post I suggested an experiment: putting Chauvin in chokehold for nine minutes. If he survives then you’re probably right - George Floyd died of unrelated causes. But in case of death, Chauvin will die knowing that non lethal police procedures were followed. Let’s see how he fares after 9 minutes with a knee on his neck.
How does putting a chokehold on someone compare to Chauvin putting a knee on his neck?
If Floyd couldn’t breathe he wouldn’t have been able to talk.
Fentanyl will become even more popular with neck tattoo/hood rat types.
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