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Daughter's husband and in-laws are Mexican. The ones in the US all have IDs and agree it's racist and insulting to accuse minorities of being too stupid to get one.
Other relatives are black and some American Indians. Everybody has ID.
Learn me --- where is it stated in the Constitution one must have an ID to vote?
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Oldhag quoted it before. Time, place, and manner of elections is up to the states, but with Congressional oversight if they want. No federal law forbids voter ID policy.
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Just because something is not specifically listed in the Constitution does not make it unconstitutional. Voter ID laws, including ones with pictures and/or provided by a government entity, were upheld as constitutional by Crawford v Marion (2008). The state only need prove they have taken steps to be inclusive and not create undue burdens on voters. This is what my state does to help those that struggle with the ID requirement - https://www.voteriders.org/states/kentucky/
The Kansas ID law (Fish v Schwab) that required residents to provide a birth certificate or passport if they wanted to register to vote was struck down at the Circuit level because there were not reasonable alternatives available to an estimated 30,000 voters and the state could only find evidence of around 60 fraudulent registrations of non-citizens. That was unconstitutional - burdensome voter without proof it was crucial to safeguard election. Allegedly, if Kansas had experienced a run of non-citizens registering or had a significant illegal population, such as California or Texas, the results may have come out different.
It's all in the 'interpretation' of the Constitution as to a law's constitutionality. So are we saying we are going to deny a person their right to have their say in representation, if they are a citizen without an ID? If that's true, then Due Process is next.
Nowadays with the left, if they don't like something, they say it's racist. Only Republicans can be racist though. Dems are exempt. lol hypocrites.
How the heck is requiring an ID to vote in this country racist? Y'all can't be serious.
Since we all need a photo ID to drive a car, open bank account, cash checks, fly a commercial airplane, visit Joe at the White House, apply for welfare, etc... wouldn't making sure every American has a proper photo ID be an imperative, even if we have to help them by subsidizing the process???
So why is Joe "you know the thing" O'Biden not pushing for legislation to make sure every racial minority in the US has a proper photo ID? Nope, instead, Joe seems happy if minority persons in the US vote, but doesn't care that they cannot drive a car, open a bank account, cash checks, fly a commercial airplane, visit Joe at the White House, apply for welfare, etc...
Daughter's husband and in-laws are Mexican. The ones in the US all have IDs and agree it's racist and insulting to accuse minorities of being too stupid to get one.
Other relatives are black and some American Indians. Everybody has ID.
But sadly the woke racist bigots think racial minorities are too inept to spell DMV much less find it on a map, cuz they don't know how to use a computer and navigate the internet.
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That video is great.
Daughter's husband and in-laws are Mexican. The ones in the US all have IDs and agree it's racist and insulting to accuse minorities of being too stupid to get one.
Other relatives are black and some American Indians. Everybody has ID.
Are you saying I can go to a gun store and buy a gun without an ID? Did our Founding fathers require an ID to buy a gun?
How come you have to provide an ID to buy a gun, but no ID to vote?
I am here all day.
Depends on the state, but you can buy a gun privately and probably at a gun show WITHOUT AN ID. Or at least nobody is that interested whether its a real id. And further YOU DONT HAVE TO REGISTER YOUR GUN. You do have to register to vote.
Hey here is the chance to unify the country. Agree to permanent gun registration in exchange for voter registration. You are afraid somebody will vote for a non-Republican. And I am afraid some crazy will shoot up school, a movie theater, or a store. Win-win!
Since we all need a photo ID to drive a car, open bank account, cash checks, fly a commercial airplane, visit Joe at the White House, apply for welfare, etc... wouldn't making sure every American has a proper photo ID be an imperative, even if we have to help them by subsidizing the process???
So why is Joe "you know the thing" O'Biden not pushing for legislation to make sure every racial minority in the US has a proper photo ID? Nope, instead, Joe seems happy if minority persons in the US vote, but doesn't care that they cannot drive a car, open a bank account, cash checks, fly a commercial airplane, visit Joe at the White House, apply for welfare, etc...
But the Constitution doesnt guarantee you right to drive a car, open a bank account, cash checks, fly a commercial airplane, visit Joe at the White House, apply for welfare, etc. IT DOES GUARANTEE EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE, WITH NO MENTION OF NEEDING A PHOTO ID!
Hey here is the chance to unite the country. I will agree to need to register to vote if you agree for the need to register ownership of your guns! Pass a constitutional amendment stating such. Easy peasy.
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chuting Senators.
From Smiley v Holme (1932)
Voter ID was specifically addressed in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board (2008).
In other words, the constitution gives states the right to require an ID to vote.
So time, place, and manner of how to vote, not that its required to have a photo id to vote. Meaning you want paper ballot, electronic ballot, send different color smoke up your chimney, put certain color marble in a jar. Yep no argument, state can decide that. Even decide on a 100% mail in ballot or an internet voting scheme. Same they can decide to hole elections at midnight on 4th of July far as I can tell and on roof of the state capital should they desire. But doesnt say voter has to have his picture on piece plastic to vote. I think you will find state laws requiring voters to guess the number of marbles in a jar in order to vote or recite the state constitution backwards were outlawed.
I would say perhaps somebody should challenge constitutionality of voter id UNLESS the state is willing to pay all costs to get each and every citizen an acceptable voter id required by the state, including the personal assistance in tracking down birth certificates, etc. Making a voter pay a dime to meet arbitrary requirements costing money is a poll tax. Which I am sure you noticed is illegal. Same way requiring a citizen to take off from work to vote and LOSE WAGES is also a poll tax. A national election day holiday would take care of that. Course that would let those pesky poor people vote without penalty. And thats the whole idea of the restrictions, to make it difficult for anybody but wealthy white people to vote.
So time, place, and manner of how to vote, not that its required to have a photo id to vote. Meaning you want paper ballot, electronic ballot, send different color smoke up your chimney, put certain color marble in a jar. Yep no argument, state can decide that. Even decide on a 100% mail in ballot or an internet voting scheme. Same they can decide to hole elections at midnight on 4th of July far as I can tell and on roof of the state capital should they desire. But doesnt say voter has to have his picture on piece plastic to vote. I think you will find state laws requiring voters to guess the number of marbles in a jar in order to vote or recite the state constitution backwards were outlawed.
I would say perhaps somebody should challenge constitutionality of voter id UNLESS the state is willing to pay all costs to get each and every citizen an acceptable voter id required by the state, including the personal assistance in tracking down birth certificates, etc. Making a voter pay a dime to meet arbitrary requirements costing money is a poll tax. Which I am sure you noticed is illegal. Same way requiring a citizen to take off from work to vote and LOSE WAGES is also a poll tax. A national election day holiday would take care of that. Course that would let those pesky poor people vote without penalty. And thats the whole idea of the restrictions, to make it difficult for anybody but wealthy white people to vote.
Voter turn out is poor enough, with out it getting help.
You know people use to remember history, not just that of our own, but of other countries, as well. We use to try and safeguard our freedoms --- Not anymore. Those pesky freedoms just keep getting in the way of control. I'm just wondering how much control people will continue to give up, before they decide they want to do a take back. If that day ever happens, Americans would be on their own, as there isn't a country in this world, that will help out with that. Nope, but they will watch with interest.
Illegals won't gather in large crowds at voting polls, they fear being found and deportation --- good post; couldn't rep you again.
Depends on the state, but you can buy a gun privately and probably at a gun show WITHOUT AN ID. Or at least nobody is that interested whether its a real id. And further YOU DONT HAVE TO REGISTER YOUR GUN. You do have to register to vote.
Hey here is the chance to unify the country. Agree to permanent gun registration in exchange for voter registration. You are afraid somebody will vote for a non-Republican. And I am afraid some crazy will shoot up school, a movie theater, or a store. Win-win!
What is the difference between buying a gun from a private saler inside a gun show to buying a gun from a private saler OUTSIDE of the gun show? There is none
The fact of the matter is you still need ID to buy a gun from a dealer. Did our Founding Father required Americans to have ID to buy a gun? Yet, you don’t think we need ID to vote?
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