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Old 04-03-2021, 12:31 AM
 
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The constant use of these events, and linking them to gun control is total BS. Nazi Germany never changed their gun laws in fact they relaxed them for German citizens. Germany simply passed laws that said if you had one grandparent on either side who was Jewish you were no longer a citizen of Germany. Jewish people had their German Citizenship stripped by the Nuremburg laws. They were considered non-citizen who had no rights to own guns were eventually rounded up and deported to be killed in gas chambers.

The idea that people who are armed with "small arms" without being constantly supplied by a 3rd party can defend against a well supplied military with heavy weapons is a fantasy.
Not when you factor in the numbers! If there was an all out 'revolution' against the Govt...I would guess about 40-50% of citizens would be willing to take up arms....


Initially, the first line of resistance they meet will be local and state law enforcement, and then National Guard and eventually military.


Point is, the public has the 'numbers' in their favor...yes, they may all be armed with small arms, but have to remember, its 100s of 1000s of them!


As to being supplied in such an event...its hard to tell if any other 'entity' or country would come to the aid of the citizens and either help them or supply, its certainly possible.
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Old 04-03-2021, 10:23 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I think many of the members of the military would defect or not engage their fellow citizens if they really tried to do away with the second amendment. Liberals always think the army is so much stronger than the civilians. That is true but you have to remember that many members of the military are very conservative. This is also true of law enforcement on the local level, well at least in places they still enforce the laws.

Do I get cashless bail if arrested for a gun in lib land? Oh I forgot there is no gang task force, no ICE, no CBP, and the local agencies have been defunded. It wouldn’t surprise me if the left actually cited England as an example and insisted police be unarmed.
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Old 04-03-2021, 11:58 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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The constant use of these events, and linking them to gun control is total BS. Nazi Germany never changed their gun laws in fact they relaxed them for German citizens. Germany simply passed laws that said if you had one grandparent on either side who was Jewish you were no longer a citizen of Germany. Jewish people had their German Citizenship stripped by the Nuremburg laws. They were considered non-citizen who had no rights to own guns were eventually rounded up and deported to be killed in gas chambers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarm...he_German_Jews

The idea that people who are armed with "small arms" without being constantly supplied by a 3rd party can defend against a well supplied military with heavy weapons is a fantasy.
Americans here fought the British who were at the time the world's super power and vastly superior military wise.

Using your defeatist logic we wouldn't have an America.

So since a rival has a bigger weapon your logic is to just say screw it, here's my guns.

No offence but people who think like you do scare me a bit. The lack of backbone and grit isn't a good look and is certainly not what this country was founded on.

Pick up some history books and read about the rise and falls of nations over the millennia, you'll have a better understanding of the bigger picture.
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Old 04-03-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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Americans here fought the British who were at the time the world's super power and vastly superior military wise.

Using your defeatist logic we wouldn't have an America.

So since a rival has a bigger weapon your logic is to just say screw it, here's my guns.

No offence but people who think like you do scare me a bit. The lack of backbone and grit isn't a good look and is certainly not what this country was founded on.

Pick up some history books and read about the rise and falls of nations over the millennia, you'll have a better understanding of the bigger picture.
These people are nothing more than modern day 'Tories'...had they lived at the time of the American Revolution, they would have taken Englands side, and probably be calling for all the historical American patriots, to be captured and thrown in prison or hung.
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Old 04-03-2021, 06:50 PM
 
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These people are nothing more than modern day 'Tories'...had they lived at the time of the American Revolution, they would have taken Englands side, and probably be calling for all the historical American patriots, to be captured and thrown in prison or hung.
Whereas in 2021, they haven't gotten around to the "hung" part yet.

Except when referring to President Trump.
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Old 04-03-2021, 11:05 PM
 
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Whats really interesting about the Tories of the American Revolution...after America won....didnt see many people crying foul or upset that England had lost...and certainly do not see anyone today, wishing England had won...so pretty much, all the Tories caved and just accepted the outcome.


I just wonder if the outcome would be the same today, if 'criminals and terrorists' were to come out on top...would those who oppose them, just accept it and call it a day. IDK, I think they would.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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The constant use of these events, and linking them to gun control is total BS. Nazi Germany never changed their gun laws in fact they relaxed them for German citizens. Germany simply passed laws that said if you had one grandparent on either side who was Jewish you were no longer a citizen of Germany. Jewish people had their German Citizenship stripped by the Nuremburg laws. They were considered non-citizen who had no rights to own guns were eventually rounded up and deported to be killed in gas chambers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarm...he_German_Jews

The idea that people who are armed with "small arms" without being constantly supplied by a 3rd party can defend against a well supplied military with heavy weapons is a fantasy.
That military would be fractured if it were ever to happen. There are a lot more people that own the types of guns the libs want to ban in the military than aren't.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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That military would be fractured if it were ever to happen. There are a lot more people that own the types of guns the libs want to ban in the military than aren't.
Im not so sure about that!


Take police for example, their main duties are to PROTECT CITIZENS RIGHTS...but there are numerous cases where police have seized firearms from people...(not much division in these cases), police complying with the law, rather than protecting rights.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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Here we go again. As more than one Democrat has said in the past, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".

Biden know he could never get the people's representatives on Congress to pass unconstitutional "gun control" measures. So it looks like he will simply sign some into law by executive fiat - that is, by Executive Order, as though he had the authority to overrule the Constitution.

Recently Biden has expressed interest in a ban on "assault" weapons", though he has not explained what an "assault weapon" is. He has also talked about making "background checks" more strict, though he has not specifically said that govt should infringe the right to keep and bear arms of a person who somehow did not "pass" the background check to the government's satisfaction.

To no one's surprise, none of the reporters in the room even asked if any government "gun control" measure had ever succeeded in lowering the murder rate or other "gun violence" measure.

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https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/jen-ps...cutive-orders/

Jen Psaki says Biden will sign gun control executive orders

by Steven Nelson
March 26, 2021 | 3:10pm

White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Friday confirmed that President Biden intends to sign executive orders on gun control.

Psaki replied “Yes” to a journalist’s question about whether reporters should “be expecting executive orders from the president on gun measures.”

But she said the timing was unclear due to a review process.
And we will ignore them.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Im not so sure about that!


Take police for example, their main duties are to PROTECT CITIZENS RIGHTS...but there are numerous cases where police have seized firearms from people...(not much division in these cases), police complying with the law, rather than protecting rights.
I haven't seen a military exemption ever.
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