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Old 03-30-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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You can’t be serious.

You think Target and McDonalds are going to use your lack of vaccine statuses deny you the opportunity to spend in their businesses?

Travel however is a different matter.

I can appreciate Hawaii’s cautious approach given its healthcare system is limited.

Proof of vaccine would certainly help jumpstart international tourism.

Nearly 80 million visitors to the US in 2019.

I’m dead serious. It will start with travel and large sporting events, concerts and then move to jobs and schools. Maybe I can still hit the MC Donald’s drive through but it is definitely going to become common but only if people allow it to take the initial foothold. Once it’s here it will never go away. What kind of world do we want for our kids and our grandkids. Think seriously about this. It’s a terrible idea on so many different levels. Wake up, people.
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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And because Florida is so lax with their attitude, I am in the process of selling my condo, after almost 15 years of feeding the Florida economy. I won't go back to a place run that way.
Bye! There are 100's of others flooding in here. People like the freedoms. The real estate market is booming.
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Let's get a COVID passport ID *AND* make this required to vote (as an ID). Win/Win!
Works for me.

I fully support voter ID.

Who are these people who live their lives without ID?

Where did they go to school? How do they see a doctor? Fill a script? Get a job? Open a bank account? Cash a check? Drive? Board a flight? Rent space? Buy property? Buy a car? Finance anything? Apply for welfare benefits? Buy alcohol and/ or recreational marijuana? Buy a firearm? Insure anything?
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:31 PM
 
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Another reason to tag and track citizens like sharks on the Discovery channel. And this will not be the only domestic 'passport' either. You'll need paperwork for everything. It's all about centralization of power which requires the centralization of personal information. It's that information that can be exploited by hackers or the government to achieve what ever they want.
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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Absolutely no certainty exists regarding the durability of immunity achieved from a prior infection.

If such immunity existed, we would get one cold or bout of flu and never concern ourselves with getting another.

Viruses mutate because that’s what they do.

The flu shot is reformulated annually and occasionally mid season based on projections of which strains will be aggressive.

The flu is caused by a different virus than SARS.

I have good news for you! Our bodies are wondrously effective at protecting us! Even when mutating viruses happen. And it's great news that this protection can last for many years! Here is are two studies, one showing lasting immunity, which means cells recognize the virus and attack, to minimize the virus's strength.



Immune T Cells May Offer Lasting Protection Against COVID-19
Finally, Bertoletti’s team looked for such T cells in blood samples from 37 healthy individuals with no history of either COVID-19 or SARS. To their surprise, more than half had T cells that recognize one or more of the SARS-CoV-2 proteins under study here. It’s still not clear if this acquired immunity stems from previous infection with coronaviruses that cause the common cold or perhaps from exposure to other as-yet unknown coronaviruses.
https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/0...inst-covid-19/


Public Health England has partnered with diagnostics company Oxford Immunotec to recruit thousands of people in an effort to find out if they have acquired T-cell immunity to Covid-19.

The new trial follows recent research that showed people infected with a Sars virus similar to Covid-19 developed T-cell immunity that can act up to 17 years, meaning far more people may be immune for a long period of time.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...c-b533312.html
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:35 PM
 
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Another reason to tag and track citizens like sharks on the Discovery channel. And this will not be the only domestic 'passport' either. You'll need paperwork for everything. It's all about centralization of power which requires the centralization of personal information. It's that information that can be exploited by hackers or the government to achieve what ever they want.
Bruh, you're worried about being tagged and tracked? Better call everyone you know on your tagging and tracking machine in your pocket.
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Old 03-30-2021, 01:06 PM
 
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Another reason to tag and track citizens like sharks on the Discovery channel. And this will not be the only domestic 'passport' either. You'll need paperwork for everything. It's all about centralization of power which requires the centralization of personal information. It's that information that can be exploited by hackers or the government to achieve what ever they want.

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Old 03-30-2021, 01:18 PM
 
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Works for me.

I fully support voter ID.

Who are these people who live their lives without ID?

Where did they go to school? How do they see a doctor? Fill a script? Get a job? Open a bank account? Cash a check? Drive? Board a flight? Rent space? Buy property? Buy a car? Finance anything? Apply for welfare benefits? Buy alcohol and/ or recreational marijuana? Buy a firearm? Insure anything?
Its easy to live your life and almost never show an ID. Just have to have been alive for a few decades. No big deal. Just because you are a world traveler doesnt mean everyone else is. The vaccine passport is junk based on a disease that 90% of people dont get sick or very mild symptoms. Its nonsense. Just more control by the left and wanting everyone to be a sheep.
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Old 03-30-2021, 01:20 PM
 
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It was a test group, not the entire population.
Watch out!
More variants are coming!
Lock down NYC again!
Obviously, if you sample properly, you don't need to test the "entire population"

But, yes, if I recall properly there was some potential bias with the sample in that study. Yet, on this very forum people ran with those results to justify the "natural herd immunity approach".
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Old 03-30-2021, 01:21 PM
 
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Another reason to tag and track citizens like sharks on the Discovery channel. And this will not be the only domestic 'passport' either. You'll need paperwork for everything. It's all about centralization of power which requires the centralization of personal information. It's that information that can be exploited by hackers or the government to achieve what ever they want.
Its about turning the citizenry into sheep that follow along and obey all the edicts given by our great and glorious politicians.
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