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Old 03-29-2021, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Spain
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I have no doubt the government will start killing its own citizens.
This is the true gist of this thread. Paranoia.


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never accept safety over freedom!!
Oh yeah, Mary Mallon was unfairly persecuted for infecting dozens by continuing to serve food after finding out she had typhoid. A girl's gotta work. Liberty!
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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If this were Ebola, you'd either support it or die. Your choice to die, but those would be your only options.


Many - many - nations already require proof of vaccination for many things, and have for decades. Now the USA will be one of them (maybe).


Personally, though, I don't disagree with your overall sentiment. It's intrusive for sure.



The thing is - we're not playing by just OUR rules. This is a world-wide problem. The lowest common denominator for ALL nations is the one we'll be using - because we cannot exist in isolation. If most of the western world insists on proof of vaccination - then we will, too.
i am somewhat of an isolationist. I am not 100 percent but for the most part, we should put our country first. we should stop giving our money to other countries.
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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That is for going to other countries. it might still be unconstitutional but there are many laws made that are unconstitutional.
No. It's also for getting into school.

We can disagree whether it is unconstitutional, but the plain fact is that requiring vaccination in certain circumstances has not led to "...the government killing its own citizens..."
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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This is the true gist of this thread. Paranoia.



Oh yeah, Mary Mallon was unfairly persecuted for infecting dozens by continuing to serve food after finding out she had typhoid. A girl's gotta work. Liberty!
Typhoid is NOT NEARLY as dangerous as the Covid sniffles!
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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This is the true gist of this thread. Paranoia.



Oh yeah, Mary Mallon was unfairly persecuted for infecting dozens by continuing to serve food after finding out she had typhoid. A girl's gotta work. Liberty!
where typhoid mary is a tough case in this video the Judge explains why isolating her for years was a violation. fast forward to 22 minute mark.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/28/polit...ort/index.html

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Old 03-29-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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No. It's also for getting into school.
Then it's unconstitutional even if a law.
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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where typhoid mary is a tough case in this video the Judge explains why isolating her for years was a violation.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/28/polit...ort/index.html
And at least with her case, they had proof, rather than just insinuating everyone is infected like they do now.
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:41 AM
 
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No. It's also for getting into school.

We can disagree whether it is unconstitutional, but the plain fact is that requiring vaccination in certain circumstances has not led to "...the government killing its own citizens..."

no i would not assume requiring a vaccine would mean the government will start killing its own people but maybe cancel culture is more if an indication of that. trying to suppress free speech and also taking away our guns. before every major genocide the governments took away the guns of the citizens and it was the first action they took.
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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And at least with her case, they had proof, rather than just insinuating everyone is infected like they do now.
Ya that's what makes it the scariest that they take away your rights because everyone might be sick. It never worked that way and is a genius way to take away your rights. well anyone could be sick so everyone loses their rights. They do it to gain more control.
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Old 03-29-2021, 08:45 AM
 
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please watch this this judge explains it.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/28/polit...ort/index.html

its a bit long but you do not understand the situation until you watch this.

this video is for everyone that does not understand.

You have to prove the person is sick. you can not take away the rights of healthy people. the federal government can not stop the movement of people. the burden is on the state to prove that you are sick.

quarentene does not take away due process.

You do not understand "freedom" and "liberty". You don not have the right by exercising your "freedom" to curtail me from exercising my "freedom". It is exactly that intersection which is a primary reason our government was formed.
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