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Old 04-01-2021, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Why are you guys trying to defend his lie? It was a direct, overt, blatant lie, and EVERYONE knew it was when he said it. It's ok to say so. He's a politician. Everyone knows he lies - even you. You can be honest, this one time. Really.

"I guarantee you, my word as a Biden, no one making less than four hundred thousand dollars will pay a single penny more in taxes. Not a penny."

I guess his word as a Biden is worth about as much as we thought.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes and the Republicans voted to give to the top 1%.
It was paid for by adding to the deficit.
I don’t recall that inflation “vote”.
Again, letting people keep more of their own money doesn't cost the Fed Gov anything. Zero. They're not cutting checks or direct depositing to anyone's bank account to do so. What costs the Fed Gov money is the over $1 trillion/year it actually spends on numerous public assistance programs. The Fed Gov has to actually give people that money, money which they didn't already have.
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Old 04-01-2021, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So $400k of TAXABLE INCOME is middle class? Remember, this is after all the deductions of children, SALT, work expenses, mortgage interest, retirement contributions, etc. You can hide about $40k alone by maxing out retirement contributions. This would probably mean the family would likely have an income of at least $500k a year. I don't care where you live in the US, 500k a year is not middle class.
You’re correct, it shouldn’t be middle class.

But a tax hit of 40% pushes them back down to upper middle class levels.
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Old 04-01-2021, 07:44 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Read over the first page.

Why are you guys trying to defend his lie? It was a direct, overt, blatant lie, and EVERYONE knew it was when he said it. It's ok to say so. He's a politician. Everyone knows he lies - even you. You can be honest, this one time. Really.

"I guarantee you, my word as a Biden, no one making less than four hundred thousand dollars will pay a single penny more in taxes. Not a penny."

I guess his word as a Biden is worth about as much as we thought.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl

Which taxpayers making less than $400K are paying more in taxes?
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Old 04-01-2021, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Read over the first page.

Why are you guys trying to defend his lie? It was a direct, overt, blatant lie, and EVERYONE knew it was when he said it. It's ok to say so. He's a politician. Everyone knows he lies - even you. You can be honest, this one time. Really.

"I guarantee you, my word as a Biden, no one making less than four hundred thousand dollars will pay a single penny more in taxes. Not a penny."

I guess his word as a Biden is worth about as much as we thought.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl



Yup, Biden lied and people will pay dearly for it. He has pet projects to fund and it's time for America to pay up, lockdowns be damned.
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Old 04-01-2021, 07:56 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You’re correct, it shouldn’t be middle class.

But a tax hit of 40% pushes them back down to upper middle class levels.

Please show your math there.

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Old 04-01-2021, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Which taxpayers making less than $400K are paying more in taxes?
if the dems raise the corporate tax....every person
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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Exactly. And it would capture unreported income. The government spins up all this nonsense about fairness and class, to divide the country and win votes. The reality is that the lower income brackets pay very little tax as it is, with the high wage earner brackets paying the most. And given that we are literally printing money right now, this whole raising taxes business is more about politics than anything else.
Excellent point. Also too many people look at the percentage of tax collection per income bracket and neglect looking at the cumulative numbers. The higher the bracket , the more taxes are collected in mass.

Taxation as a means of inflation control after massive spending is an old Democratic trick that has been tried in the past. Talk about burdens on the people, Biden’s latest “ infrastructure “ boondoggle will add half the average family income per year to the national debt. It will take 15 years of higher taxation just to pay for this latest drunken sailor binge.

Clearly, more spending and then even more taxation is down the road. They aren’t done yet . Their economic plan is too squash the top income and boost the bottom, squeezing out the middle class.
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:41 AM
 
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Excellent point. Also too many people look at the percentage of tax collection per income bracket and neglect looking at the cumulative numbers. The higher the bracket , the more taxes are collected in mass.

Taxation as a means of inflation control after massive spending is an old Democratic trick that has been tried in the past. Talk about burdens on the people, Biden’s latest “ infrastructure “ boondoggle will add half the average family income per year to the national debt. It will take 15 years of higher taxation just to pay for this latest drunken sailor binge.

Clearly, more spending and then even more taxation is down the road. They aren’t done yet . Their economic plan is too squash the top income and boost the bottom, squeezing out the middle class.
It certainly seems that way.
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:52 AM
 
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Read over the first page.

Why are you guys trying to defend his lie? It was a direct, overt, blatant lie, and EVERYONE knew it was when he said it. It's ok to say so. He's a politician. Everyone knows he lies - even you. You can be honest, this one time. Really.

"I guarantee you, my word as a Biden, no one making less than four hundred thousand dollars will pay a single penny more in taxes. Not a penny."

I guess his word as a Biden is worth about as much as we thought.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...ml?jwsource=cl
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