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Didn’t mean it like that, it’s something that we aspire to achieve, like the right in pursuing happiness. We have a right to education, but still need to make a effort to learn.
over 20 million citizens don't have a photo ID. IDs cost money. Requiring an ID means those 20 million people now need to pay cash to vote. That's a problem. Provide a government issued ID at no out of pocket expense to all citizens, and I'd be fine with requiring voter ID.
As it stands, there is no systemic fraud, there's no evidence of illegitimate votes being cast. Requiring ID to vote is a solution looking for a problem.
There are an estimated 33 million illegals in the US. I'm guessing most don't have ID either. If a poor American doesn't need an ID but can still vote so can someone here illegally.
You are also showing your ignorance concerning rural areas, here you have to go 30 to 40 miles to get a license and ID. Those who want them finds a way.
Yep, they think boxes of fruit loops are grown in these folk's gardens. They still have to drive into town, somehow, to get food, clothes, fuel or other goods and services.
over 20 million citizens don't have a photo ID. IDs cost money. Requiring an ID means those 20 million people now need to pay cash to vote.
Everything costs money. If they can afford rent, a cell phone, and internet, they can afford an ID.
How do these people sign a lease or rent a car? How do they book a hotel or cash a check? How do the board a flight?
You're not even a real citizen without ID, voting is the least of your worries. The only people who don't need ID are criminals, so the cops don't know who they are.
No it’s of people in urban areas do not need driver licenses because they can walk or use public transportation. Because of this there is no need for them to get driver licenses unlike people who need driver licenses in the suburbs and rural areas who need to drive to get around. If anything you are showing your ignorance by not trying to understand the lifestyle and mindset of people who live in urban areas.
So basically people in urban areas don’t need or want to or have to go to airports for travel, order Ubers, pick up prescriptions, pick up packages, go to a hospital, give blood, visit a federal building, go to a bank, go to the SS office, purchase alcohol, purchase cigarettes, purchase lottery tickets, write checks, collect unemployment, go to public schools, have jobs, etc.?
Because currently it's very easy to vote several times (under an assumed name)
i remember reading facebook posts from people discussing polling locations nearest to state lines so they could vote in several states before the polls closed.
How else could Obamas first AND second terms have had in excess of 120% of total ballots cast ?
I live in MI and just looked up the cost to get a state ID. It's $10 for under 65 and free for over 65. The fee will also be waived for veterans, homeless, people receiving state aid, and a few other circumstances.
This argument that requiring ID turns voting into a "pay to play" scheme is ridiculous.
over 20 million citizens don't have a photo ID. IDs cost money. Requiring an ID means those 20 million people now need to pay cash to vote. That's a problem. Provide a government issued ID at no out of pocket expense to all citizens, and I'd be fine with requiring voter ID.
As it stands, there is no systemic fraud, there's no evidence of illegitimate votes being cast. Requiring ID to vote is a solution looking for a problem.
Very poor excuse not to have $$$ for a photo ID in your pocket, when you have $$$ for the latest most expensive IPHONE in your pocket instead.
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