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Old 04-04-2021, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Unless the 92 year old woman is about to be escorted to a standing cell for a good long torture session, followed by a nice big Zyklon B toke, then I think her aged perception of the situation might be a bit mis-calibrated.
They don't need a cell if the government forbids you to leave you home or venture into public.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:05 AM
 
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"In February, the Israeli Government introduced the digital 'green pass', a certificate of inoculation that granted people privileges that the unvaccinated aren't allowed, such as access to bars, hotels, gyms and swimming pools." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-...thics/13252588

this quote comes from a website on china and other countries implementing a vaccine passport. if you do not have the passport you will be a second class citizen with less priveledges.

I am proving it is happening NOW. we might have a model like china where on your phone you will have to show proof you are recently vaccinated if you have no proof you can not go anywhere.

"Those opposed to a digital certificate believe it will "create a two-tier society where some people can access support and freedoms, while others are shut out — with the most marginalised among us hardest hit", according to the BBC.

"In the US, President Joe Biden has moved slowly since signing an executive order in January to investigate ways to digitise and share vaccine information." That is also from that website.
You can make comparissions to a lot of authoritarian governments not just Nazi Germany. The United States might develop the China model. we will have a social credit score where if you have the wrong opinion online you will lose priveledges such as driving or traveling on public transportation.

It is too late for me to edit the tittle of the thread the website only gives you so much time to edit posts. I have not seen any hateful comments here.

The powers that be here can remove anything they want, if requested.

Not only do I disagree with the above, but it has little to nothing to do with your acknowledgement that your original post (especially that video) was wrong and your apology for your mistaken, insensitive behavior turned out to be a sham. Flip-floping isn't honorable.


And the fact that we are currently in a worsening pandemic! Germany wasn't suffering a pandemic, just looking for a "savior" to free them from economic disaster, for which they had long searched for a scapegoat.
Again, and afraid I have to repeat it, we are in the midst of a world public health emergency, not someone's folly or an excuse for hatred and murder. There are sane, rational reasons for actions today, so as not to extend the virus and the resultant new variants, which may well be even more harmful to everyone, even those who are fully vaccinated. a bit of discomfort is a small price to pay.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:18 AM
 
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If it is too painful, why even participate?

I just find it incredible that Discussion can’t be suggested on the subject.
Sounds familiar actually.

Feel free to read my posts earlier in the thread. I won't give up on those people by letting others minimize the horrors they went through. I owe that much to them for their suffering. And these posts are definitely attempts to minimize.
We have a pandemic going on! The situation is like comparing apples and bananas. Very spoiled and naive, "First World" complaints.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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The powers that be here can remove anything they want, if requested.

Not only do I disagree with the above, but it has little to nothing to do with your acknowledgement that your original post (especially that video) was wrong and your apology for your mistaken, insensitive behavior turned out to be a sham. Flip-floping isn't honorable.


And the fact that we are currently in a worsening pandemic! Germany wasn't suffering a pandemic, just looking for a "savior" to free them from economic disaster, for which they had long searched for a scapegoat.
Again, and afraid I have to repeat it, we are in the midst of a world public health emergency, not someone's folly or an excuse for hatred and murder. There are sane, rational reasons for actions today, so as not to extend the virus and the resultant new variants, which may well be even more harmful to everyone, even those who are fully vaccinated. a bit of discomfort is a small price to pay.
This virus is way overblown. the numbers are inflated. cases mean nothing I only care about actual deaths. the flu kills 70 thousand a year. we have had much worse viruses then this . the masks do not stop the spread of the virus. there was no reason to shut down buisnesses. they use this virus to take away your freedom!!

are you for vaccine passports? lets all shut down society for a virus as deadly as the flu.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:36 AM
 
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This virus is way overblown. the numbers are inflated. cases mean nothing I only care about actual deaths. the flu kills 70 thousand a year. we have had much worse viruses then this . the masks do not stop the spread of the virus. there was no reason to shut down buisnesses. they use this virus to take away your freedom!!



As a health professional, I say horse cocky to that. I know way too much about how viruses work, how mutations work, how influenza is controlled. You want to be ignorant, feel free.


You lied about your reation to my initial post. Faked your sympathy. The moron woman is still there, and attracting more morons who don't care about the suffering of others. As I said, first world, spoiled, self-centered weaklings are on board. They have great need to whine about their inconveniences! Pathetic.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:44 AM
 
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As a health professional, I say horse cocky to that. I know way too much about how viruses work, how mutations work, how influenza is controlled. You want to be ignorant, feel free.


You lied about your reation to my initial post. Faked your sympathy. The moron woman is still there, and attracting more morons who don't care about the suffering of others. As I said, first world, spoiled, self-centered weaklings are on board. They have great need to whine about their inconveniences! Pathetic.
are you for vaccine passports?

your a very judgmental person. I have no control over deleting anything on this site you are ignorant and try to make others feel guilty because your a judgmental person who is intolerant of everything you disagree with.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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You are a dishonest, judgemental person. I actually believed you at first, believed your fake empathy, but you proved yourself a liar. In fact I appreciate an energetic, articulate argument. But this is just intolerance and excuses for cruelty and holocaust denial or minimization. And under the circumstances, it truly is ugliness, after my very honest descriptions in posts above. No excuses.
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Old 04-04-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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You are a dishonest, judgemental person. I actually believed you at first, believed your fake empathy, but you proved yourself a liar. In fact I appreciate an energetic, articulate argument. But this is just intolerance and excuses for cruelty and holocaust denial or minimization. And under the circumstances, it truly is ugliness, after my very honest descriptions in posts above. No excuses.

I started comparing this to what is happening in communist china. no one on here ever denied the holocaust happened.

I am one of the most truthful people on this forum. I can not delete my first post or change the tittle the website only allows you to change something for a certain amount of time.

i would have changed the title but I can not I am not a moderator. so no i have no control over it so therefore i have nothing to be guilty of nor did i flip flop.
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Old 04-04-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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She's a paid actor giving a prepared speech. You can tell that because the speech was too well organized to be off the cuff. What's her name? What concentration camp was she held in? What became of her family? No one knows, because it's BS.

The offensive analogy of comparing Jews being forced to wear yellow stars in Nazi Germany to mask wearing has been used before and universally condemned by Jewish groups as well as actual holocaust deniers, who give their names.

Here are some legit references.
Auschwitz Survivor Condemns Anti-maskers Complaining about Personal Liberties as Clueless

Auschwitz Memorial calls out Springfield woman for comment comparing masks to Nazi tactics
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Old 04-04-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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I started comparing this to what is happening in communist china. no one on here ever denied the holocaust happened.

I am one of the most truthful people on this forum. I can not delete my first post or change the tittle the website only allows you to change something for a certain amount of time.

i would have changed the title but I can not I am not a moderator. so no i have no control over it so therefore i have nothing to be guilty of nor did i flip flop.

They won't even consider changing a thread or post if you don't ask. I have had to do it before, when an incident I mentioned on this site regarding a family member, was later in a news report. I requested they remove it, and they did.
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