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Old 04-07-2021, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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No it doesn’t. We are willing to take the risk, time to stop worrying. Hospitals will not get overwhelmed by the small percentage of us who don’t want the vaccine.
Speak for yourself. Not everyone who is unvaccinated is that way willingly.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:00 PM
 
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Speak for yourself. Not everyone who is unvaccinated is that way willingly.
Except a lot of unvaccinated people themselves have immunity esp if they themselves have already been infected before. They probably have even better immunity than ones who've got the shot. And 100-200 million other Americans who don't get the vaccine are at very low risk even if they do get COVID, and may be better off not getting vaccinated and getting immunity the natural way. Tom Hanks and his wife, Jessica Simpson, Nick Cannon, Snooki, Dave Chappelle, Andy Murray, Novak Jokovic, Grimes, Drew Pinsky, Sharon Osbourne, a bunch of athletes and other celebrities got reported constantly in the media when they got COVID19, for days and days. Yet almost none of them got serious disease, they got mild cases and got over it, less severe then the flu. And yet somehow that second part of the history of their cases always gets left out from the reporting.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:38 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Ninety five percent of those getting sick will be unvaccinated, and the 5% who were vaccinated will not get as sick and are within a whisker of 100% not going to die.
How do they know for certain that the vaccinated person would have been sicker without the vaccine?
Last I heard they did not know why there were those who were asymptomatic while others were symptomatic(varying from mild, strong, hospitalization needed or death).
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Spain
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My 87-year-old cousin and his 67-year-old wife were fully vaccinated a month ago and both currently have COVID. He is in the hospital. She should be in the hospital.
Yes indeed, the 95% effective vaccines given to over a hundred million people would likely leave quite a few people with COVID.

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We've been hearing more and more about cases like this, and the news reports (despite their reluctance and trying to stick to a happy sounding narrative) are slowly being forced to admit it too.
Hah what on earth are you talking about? They said after the trials that the vaccines aren't 100% effective, how are they being forced to admit it's not 100% effective?

Of all the idiotic angles the anti-vaxxers are pursuing the "oh my gosh it's not 100%" is among the silliest. Bonus points for the deciding the news, which has always reported the efficacy rates at not 100%, are now being forced to admit what they've always reported. Good work man you're like Woodward and Bernstein for exposing this coverup. I smell Pulitzer!
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Spain
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Except a lot of unvaccinated people themselves have immunity esp if they themselves have already been infected before. They probably have even better immunity than ones who've got the shot.
Do you have a source for this? I read the opposite.

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And 100-200 million other Americans who don't get the vaccine are at very low risk even if they do get COVID, and may be better off not getting vaccinated and getting immunity the natural way.
Statistics on hospitalizations and deaths from COVID discount what you're claiming about better off.
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Old 04-10-2021, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Except a lot of unvaccinated people themselves have immunity esp if they themselves have already been infected before. They probably have even better immunity than ones who've got the shot. And 100-200 million other Americans who don't get the vaccine are at very low risk even if they do get COVID, and may be better off not getting vaccinated and getting immunity the natural way. Tom Hanks and his wife, Jessica Simpson, Nick Cannon, Snooki, Dave Chappelle, Andy Murray, Novak Jokovic, Grimes, Drew Pinsky, Sharon Osbourne, a bunch of athletes and other celebrities got reported constantly in the media when they got COVID19, for days and days. Yet almost none of them got serious disease, they got mild cases and got over it, less severe then the flu. And yet somehow that second part of the history of their cases always gets left out from the reporting.
The vaccines are producing higher antibody levels than seen in people who were infected.

About 561,000 people have died from COVID-19 in a little over a year. Stop insisting COVID-19 is less dangerous than flu. It is not.

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How do they know for certain that the vaccinated person would have been sicker without the vaccine?
Last I heard they did not know why there were those who were asymptomatic while others were symptomatic(varying from mild, strong, hospitalization needed or death).
Because the vaccinated people in the vaccine trials who were infected did not get severely ill.
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Old 04-10-2021, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The MEDIA, 95% Democrat controlled, wants to continue this travesty of Rights, Freedom and Liberty indefinitely. Don't allow them!
Then don't complain about it, if exercising your Rights to Freedom and Liberty, in order to raise your risk of catching COVID-19 made you come down sick with it.
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Old 04-10-2021, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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if covid don't get ya, fear and paranoia will..get the shot..
I did. I finally got off the fence from fears over the vaccine when realizing that the first human test subjects for the vaccines starting from a year ago, the canaries in the coal mine, haven't been dropping dead, due to them.
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:06 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Because the vaccinated people in the vaccine trials who were infected did not get severely ill.
And? So they could have been people who may have been asymptomatic or have had light symptoms if they didn't have the vaccine and got sick with covid. That does not mean that people would not get as sick if they take the vaccine and then get covid.

I am tired of the misdirection! We've seen it ever since covid was first known (don't do this or you'll kill gramma) and now we're seeing it about the vaccine (people don't die from the vaccine it's because of something else, we don't know why most people only get light symptoms or no symptoms or why others die but you will only get light symptoms if you take the vaccine, oh and the one I heard the other day on the news 'if you don't hurry up and get your vaccination now then you might not be able to find it later'(I guess they're going to stop making it or something?).
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And? So they could have been people who may have been asymptomatic or have had light symptoms if they didn't have the vaccine and got sick with covid. That does not mean that people would not get as sick if they take the vaccine and then get covid.
The trials had an unvaccinated placebo group. Of the ten cases of severe COVID-19 in the Pfizer Phase 3 trial at the time EUA was applied for, nine were in the placebo group.

At six months:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...and-no-serious

"Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration."
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