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And...having grown up not far from Buffalo, I can say the winters don't help. Sad to see how bad things have gotten. Much of the state is really beautiful, with 2 of the Great Lake, the Finger Lakes region, Adirondacks, and all the coastline of LI. Too bad their government is responsible for destroying so much of the state and putting the citizens in misery. I really didn't appreciate how bad things were until I left-and things have gone way downhill in the last 27 years.
New York state has been a boarded up mess since the late 90's when manufacturing left. They had a lot of company towns that were decimated once the company left.
I believe upstate and western New York would be better off separated from downstate and NYC. Policies championed by urban leftists are devastating to non-urban areas.
And...having grown up not far from Buffalo, I can say the winters don't help. Sad to see how bad things have gotten. Much of the state is really beautiful, with 2 of the Great Lake, the Finger Lakes region, Adirondacks, and all the coastline of LI. Too bad their government is responsible for destroying so much of the state and putting the citizens in misery. I really didn't appreciate how bad things were until I left-and things have gone way downhill in the last 27 years.
Agreed.
I grew up in the Southern Tier area.
I left in 1997 but I still have family and friends there.
I go home to visit occasionally and thoroughly enjoy the food and the beauty of Upstate NY.
But I'm also always quickly reminded of why I left in the first place.
Economic decline has taken its toll on the area, high prices, high taxes, no jobs.....no future. And sadly, this has not improved since I left.
I love my home state but I hate NY government for what they've done to it.
Some of them can move.. That is what I'd do.. some are stuck though. some voted for this and i do not feel sorry for them one whit. but some are stuck and did not vote for the rats. I do feel sorry for them.. but there is always a way out,, you might have to count your losses, but at least you will have a life getting out if its so bad. Unfortunately, the state you flee to might soon become liberal anyway.
To add insult to injury, DeBlasio has absolutely destroyed NYC. Yet, the low information voters will keep electing him due to them being totally clueless.
I remember riding on a Harley and seeing all the run down houses in the finger lakes region. Not one decent home did I see. It was sad. No jobs.. China first.
Here is my plan and it does not include creating a 51st state.
(1) At the point where the Massachusetts, New York and Connecticut borders intersect, draw a new border west to the northeast corner of Pennsylvania. The area north and west of that line becomes upstate New York and keeps the name New York state.
(2) Separate the northern 1/3 of NJ from the lower 2/3rds of the state. The lower 2/3rds keep the Jersey name.
(3) Merge downstate New York (including Long Island, NYC and the NYC northern suburbs) as well as northern 1/3 of NJ into a physically expanded Connecticut.
This turns three existing blue states into two potential purple states and one hopelessly blue state and it consolidates the most toxic of the northeast leftists into just two states: the newly expanded Connecticut and Massachusetts.
It'll never happen but one can dream...
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