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Old 04-07-2021, 02:22 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Biometric tattoos for a virus with a 1% mortality rate at most. The world has gone mad.

The CT's were right, people are so sick of COVID restrictions they will do anything required to go back to normal, including forcing experimental vaccines on people who don't want them.

I might start believing this was a PLANNEDemic.

I think the right will rescue America from this fate, if need be the SCOTUS will rule that vaccines cannot be forced and that private business may not inquire as to the vaccine status of anyone.

Amazing how many people think THAT is ok, for a grocery store to verify our HEALTH RECORDS.
SCOTUS has already ruled on vaccine mandates.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...chusetts-reiss
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:24 AM
 
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SCOTUS has already ruled on vaccine mandates.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...chusetts-reiss
Narrowly. They upheld the conviction of a man who had appealed his $5 fine for not getting vaccinated, which was a local health ordinance temporarily to stop an outbreak.

That is far from having already ruled on any form of mandate into the future.
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Narrowly. They upheld the conviction of a man who had appealed his $5 fine for not getting vaccinated, which was a local health ordinance temporarily to stop an outbreak.

That is far from having already ruled on any form of mandate into the future.
The law was not temporary.

Sorry, but efforts to overturn the precedent set by SCOTUS in 1905 have failed for 116 years. It is not likely to happen now in the middle of a pandemic that has killed over half a million in the US alone.
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:39 AM
 
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The law was not temporary.

Sorry, but efforts to overturn the precedent set by SCOTUS in 1905 have failed for 116 years. It is not likely to happen now in the middle of a pandemic that has killed over half a million in the US alone.
This law is still in place? From your link.
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In Jacobson, the state of Massachusetts delegated to local authorities the power to mandate smallpox vaccines. Faced with a smallpox outbreak, the city of Cambridge passed an ordinance requiring all people not vaccinated within a certain time frame to be vaccinated (or re-vaccinated, if they were vaccinated too long ago), with a criminal fine of $5 for refusers.
How cute, a $5 fine. Does it still work as intended? Are people still dutifully re-vaccinating for smallpox in fear of a $5 fine?
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:40 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Bill Gates was talking about using biometric tattoos on your hand for the vaccine passport in an interview.
Good idea, we can also get little yellow stars on those who refuse the vaccine.

Then we can demand papers, segregated areas, and businesses from those who refuse the vaccine.

Hitler would be damn proud.
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:43 AM
 
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The law was not temporary.

Sorry, but efforts to overturn the precedent set by SCOTUS in 1905 have failed for 116 years. It is not likely to happen now in the middle of a pandemic that has killed over half a million in the US alone.
You're seeming to have a lot of trouble understanding your own source. It discusses both this law that a city in Massachusetts had, in 1905, that no one has tried to challenge because it doesn't exist anymore, AND mandated vaccines for school, which has had many unsuccessful challenges.

It upheld the right for states to mandate vaccines, so ok, if Texas mandates the vaccine, I will get it.
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Old 04-07-2021, 02:54 AM
 
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This law is still in place? From your link.

How cute, a $5 fine. Does it still work as intended? Are people still dutifully re-vaccinating for smallpox in fear of a $5 fine?
Smallpox was eradicated worldwide - by vaccination. No one needs to be routinely vaccinated for it any more.

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You're seeming to have a lot of trouble understanding your own source. It discusses both this law that a city in Massachusetts had, in 1905, that no one has tried to challenge because it doesn't exist anymore, AND mandated vaccines for school, which has had many unsuccessful challenges.

It upheld the right for states to mandate vaccines, so ok, if Texas mandates the vaccine, I will get it.
Yep. The Jacobson v. Massachusetts decision still stands. It allows for school mandates and for mandated vaccination of everyone if there is a serious threat to public health.
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:23 AM
 
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Smallpox was eradicated worldwide - by vaccination. No one needs to be routinely vaccinated for it any more.



Yep. The Jacobson v. Massachusetts decision still stands. It allows for school mandates and for mandated vaccination of everyone if there is a serious threat to public health.
Please quote the part that gives anyone but individual states the right to mandate a vaccine.
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:39 AM
 
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Please quote the part that gives anyone but individual states the right to mandate a vaccine.
Where did I say that it would not be up to the states? The fact remains that any state can mandate that adults be vaccinated if there is a serious threat to public health.
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Old 04-07-2021, 03:47 AM
 
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Where did I say that it would not be up to the states? The fact remains that any state can mandate that adults be vaccinated if there is a serious threat to public health.
Right, glad we're on the same page now. Red states are not going to mandate the vaccine.

The Supreme court did not say that private businesses can mandate vaccines for entry, and many of the other things being discussed.
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