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As New York attorney Aaron Siri pointed out in a recent article on StatNews, neither governments nor employers are currently permitted to require covid vaccinations, as covid vaccines have not yet been officially licensed: they only received an “emergency use authorization” in the US and a “conditional marketing authorisation” in the EU. Indeed, the US FDA specifically notes that covid vaccines are “investigational vaccines not licensed for any indication.”
I am presuming, you DO know that, vaccinated people are automatically NOT prevented from being carriers, right? You DO know that? So you can be on airplane, sitting next to vaccinated person, who still is a carrier. I hope, you do know that, right? Before calling us "you dumb people". Ignorance is not pass to insult others.
The odds are 19 to 1 that the vaccinated person is not a carrier.
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2023, to be more specific, for Pfeizer. Until then, "vaccine" is not really a vaccine, it is under investigation pharmaceutical compound. Not licensed to be distributed until all testing completed. There is official FDA statement on this, read for yourself. FDA also says at the very top of every page of that document that emergency permission to use that compound was advisory only. Not me making it up, read official document, easy find from Pfeizer disclaimer on their site. And yes, as someone said, until THEN, everyone vaccinated, more properly, inoculated with experimental compound, is volunteer for free trial for Pfeizer. How does that feel?
Pfizer.
It is a vaccine. To insist otherwise is just silly nonsense.
The company plans to apply for full licensure soon, with a decision later this year. Moderna will probably follow suit.
I got the Moderna vaccine; DH got the Pfizer. We feel relieved and happy that the odds are great we will not be infected with a nasty virus that could disable or kill us.
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Sure. Here you go. With all the links to reputable articles and science.
[i]As New York attorney Aaron Siri pointed out in a recent article on StatNews, neither governments nor employers are currently permitted to require covid vaccinations, as covid vaccines have not yet been officially licensed: they only received an “emergency use authorization” in the US and a “conditional marketing authorisation” in the EU. Indeed, the US FDA specifically notes that covid vaccines are “investigational vaccines not licensed for any indication.”
I would question how "reputable "Swiss Policy Research" is.
The EUA argument is probably going to be moot in a few months.
The statement that the vaccines are "associated" with 5000 deaths is misleading. There have not been 5000 deaths for which evidence supports the vaccines as causative.
Both of your references say page not found. You totally ignored the second part of the sentence which talked about the choice being free of coercion.
“ “free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion.”
True free choice doesn’t come with a heavy dose of coercion.
I feel much like the OP. In addition, I am the type who rarely takes a Tylenol unless absolutely needed. I have an aversion to most drugs.
I guess I am cursed with not having a 15 minute attention span like many others. I simply can't reconcile in my mind all of the double speak I have heard over the last year. It's sure been a rollercoaster. For one, we were told emphatically - even by Fauci - that it wasn't possible to safely produce a vaccine quickly.
Yet here it is...I am reluctant and concerned too. I am shocked more people aren't asking thoughtful questions. Worse, many are trying to shut down questions and conversations. That part scares me way more than Co-Vid ever could.
Gov't hacks say what they are paid to. It's going to be up to individuals so sift through all of the double speak and make a choice they can comfortably live with.
Many health professionals are choosing to wait which tells me a lot. They are on the front lines so are at way more risk than I am.
Both of your references say page not found. You totally ignored the second part of the sentence which talked about the choice being free of coercion.
“ “free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion.”
True free choice doesn’t come with a heavy dose of coercion.
I feel much like the OP. In addition, I am the type who rarely takes a Tylenol unless absolutely needed. I have an aversion to most drugs.
I guess I am cursed with not having a 15 minute attention span like many others. I simply can't reconcile in my mind all of the double speak I have heard over the last year. It's sure been a rollercoaster. For one, we were told emphatically - even by Fauci - that it wasn't possible to safely produce a vaccine quickly.
Yet here it is...I am reluctant and concerned too. I am shocked more people aren't asking thoughtful questions. Worse, many are trying to shut down questions and conversations. That part scares me way more than Co-Vid ever could.
Gov't hacks say what they are paid to. It's going to be up to individuals so sift through all of the double speak and make a choice they can comfortably live with.
Many health professionals are choosing to wait which tells me a lot. They are on the front lines so are at way more risk than I am.
Dr. Fauci was happily surprised when Pfizer and Moderna did what he was afraid could not be done.
The "many health professionals" refusing the vaccine are not for the most part physicians. They are people in positions requiring less education, like CNAs in nursing homes.
Dr. Fauci was happily surprised when Pfizer and Moderna did what he was afraid could not be done.
The "many health professionals" refusing the vaccine are not for the most part physicians. They are people in positions requiring less education, like CNAs in nursing homes.
The health care workers who don't want it shouldn't be forced now. Nobody should. They rode it out successfully.
All we heard for the last year was, "Do this, do that...wear your mask...it's not for you...do you want to kill Grandma?"
OK. Well, Grandma is vaccinated now. That ship has sailed. The rest just want to be left alone now to do what they want to do.
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