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Old 04-09-2021, 05:11 PM
 
Location: USA
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Doesn't count, they're Democrats, they would never lie
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Not really new news.

Fiona Hill announced they fell for Russian propaganda at the time.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It's like The Flat Earth Society. The conspiracy theorists will never shut up about this and will never stop believing. It's pretty pathetic to be honest.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:32 PM
 
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Please. None of that makes Trump a "asset" as most would think. Its more of "A useful idiot" that killed half a million of us.

I have yet to see anything that convinces me that Trump specifically worked on their behalf. He was just really bad at the job.

Now...Manafort however? 100% a Russian asset. He gave a Russian spy Trumps internal polling information in 2016. But that doesnt mean Trump was working for them. he was just useful.
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Old 04-09-2021, 06:41 PM
 
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Putin's puppet? Hillary was right.
Hillary was so right about so many things, including the "vast right-wing conspiracy."

Trump's Russia connections were clear to any objective person, both the laymen here and the professional political experts.

It'll be interesting if Trump's taxes show more Russia connections.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:15 PM
 
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Trump did permanent damage to the left. Trump was horrible but I love him for this.
That's an interesting comment.

Trump lost the popular vote twice. Trump lost the House of Representative, then the Senate and the White House. Trump lost a tri-fecta.

The 'permanent damage' comment is questionable, but it does reveal your values and your thinking mode.

You just hate 'the left'. So you are "cutting your own nose to spite your face" as the saying goes. It's irrational, but not surprising.
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Plus, he just makes Leftist look stupid
Correction..he makes em look stupider.
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Lol you’ll be whining about the best president this country ever had until the day you drop dead

What a miserable existence
LOL, what an utterly absurd to the max viewpoint, assuming you weren't being greatly sarcastic.
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:50 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Trump lost the popular vote twice. Trump lost the House of Representative, then the Senate and the White House. .............

You could plug the names Clinton and Obama into your equation and be just as right. And in 2022 we'll be able to plug Biden into the equation, too.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:48 AM
 
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Please. None of that makes Trump a "asset" as most would think. Its more of "A useful idiot" that killed half a million of us.

I have yet to see anything that convinces me that Trump specifically worked on their behalf. He was just really bad at the job.

Now...Manafort however? 100% a Russian asset. He gave a Russian spy Trumps internal polling information in 2016. But that doesnt mean Trump was working for them. he was just useful.
So he was a "useful idiot," and not an "asset" when he put Manafort in charge of running his campaign. How about the pardon? Was that "useful idiot," or "asset?"

Roger Stone, his long-time political buddy, communicated with Wikileaks about Russian-hacked DNC emails. Was he a "useful idiot" there as well? What about the pardon?

He handed classified intelligence to Kislyak and Lavrov, in the Oval Office no less. Was this "useful idiot," or "asset?

In the investigation of Russian involvement in our elections, blocked witnesses from testifying. "Useful idiot," or "asset?"

How about all private phone calls and in-person meetings with Putin where he refused to allow any witnesses or records. Would this come under the classification of "useful idiot," or "asset?"

I could go on, but I'm sure you get the drift.

If you are going for "useful idiot," at some point you might as well drop the "useful" part.
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