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Old 04-11-2021, 02:27 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The inventor of the pcr test has even said it shouldnt be used to determine if someone has a disease.
Add that they were running it 40-60 cycles of teplication they were getting a lot of false positives. An avacado, and a beer tested positive for having covid on a pcr test. One public figure took 4 pcr tests at once. 2 tested positive and 2 tested negative.
No, he did not. He said it cannot tell whether someone is infectious or not, which is true.

More cycles will pick up patients with a very low viral load. They may be on the end of an infection or in the early stage of an infection. They very likely have such a low viral load that they are not going to spread the virus. I have not seen any reports using a cutoff of 60 cycles. Do you have a reference?

On the cycle threshold:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/90508

The PCR tests are designed to be used on material from specific sources. Other materials may have substances in them that interfere with the testing reagents and produce spurious results.

Elon Musk did not have PCR tests. He had rapid antigen tests, which do not use PCR at all.

https://fortune.com/2020/11/13/elon-...d-test-tweets/

 
Old 04-11-2021, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Is that how mortality rates are decided? A random person brings up one sarin attack and how many people died in that one?
You are in essence saying he is lying. The number of victims in the attack and the number of deaths should be easy to look up if you do not believe him.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 03:03 AM
 
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You are in essence saying he is lying. The number of victims in the attack and the number of deaths should be easy to look up if you do not believe him.
I am not saying that, I am saying the mortality rate of sarin gas is not determined by one attack and the number of people who died in that attack.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I am not saying that, I am saying the mortality rate of sarin gas is not determined by one attack and the number of people who died in that attack.
I see the point of the example is totally lost on you. No further discussion will be helpful.

Continue to believe SARS-CoV-2 is not a dangerous virus. The number of fatalities and the number who are disabled says otherwise.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 05:11 AM
 
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About a month ago husband and I got voice mails from local hospital asking us to call to schedule our vaccinations. Did not answer them.

Couple of days ago we both got a text from same hospital. This time there were boxes to check. 1. Yes, call me to schedule my appointment. 2. I have already received my vaccinations. 3. I don't want it. Do not contact me again.

Husband checked #3. I was going to as well but starting thinking about that. Would my name be put on a list for refusal? Who would get that refusal? The State? Medicare? I decided to not answer that text at all. No legal proof of my refusal.

Keep sending me texts. I will just delete them.

Edit: This is going way beyond science now.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 05:14 AM
 
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Keep sending me texts. I will just delete them.
My workplace came up with a great way of finding out who is getting a vaccine and who isn't.

They made a special code for leave time to get the vaccine.

So unless I want to lie, probably a firing offense, they will probably know.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 05:33 AM
 
Location: NYC
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About a month ago husband and I got voice mails from local hospital asking us to call to schedule our vaccinations. Did not answer them.

Couple of days ago we both got a text from same hospital. This time there were boxes to check. 1. Yes, call me to schedule my appointment. 2. I have already received my vaccinations. 3. I don't want it. Do not contact me again.

Husband checked #3. I was going to as well but starting thinking about that. Would my name be put on a list for refusal? Who would get that refusal? The State? Medicare? I decided to not answer that text at all. No legal proof of my refusal.

Keep sending me texts. I will just delete them.

Edit: This is going way beyond science now.
I don't believe your story. You claim to have done some thinking which is clearly not true.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 06:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Jo48 View Post
About a month ago husband and I got voice mails from local hospital asking us to call to schedule our vaccinations. Did not answer them.

Couple of days ago we both got a text from same hospital. This time there were boxes to check. 1. Yes, call me to schedule my appointment. 2. I have already received my vaccinations. 3. I don't want it. Do not contact me again.

Husband checked #3. I was going to as well but starting thinking about that. Would my name be put on a list for refusal? Who would get that refusal? The State? Medicare? I decided to not answer that text at all. No legal proof of my refusal.

Keep sending me texts. I will just delete them.

Edit: This is going way beyond science now.
If you’re 48, I don’t see the downside of getting the vaccine. My brother-in-law is a doctor and he very strongly encourages vaccines because he has seen the results in cases needing hospitalization and/or resulting in deaths. There is a huge drop off in those cases since the most vulnerable have a high rate of vaccination. Just look at the charts in Israel and how they have few cases now. By now we have had enough of a test group to know how the vaccine has affected people and it seems to be as good or better than vaccines that we have taken for a long time.

Last edited by katygirl68; 04-11-2021 at 06:54 AM..
 
Old 04-11-2021, 06:54 AM
 
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If you’re 48, I don’t see the downside of getting the vaccine. My brother-in-law is a doctor and he very strongly encourages vaccines because he has seen the results in cases needing hospitalization and/or resulting in deaths. There is a huge drop off in those cases since the most vulnerable have a high rate of vaccination. Just look at the charts in Israel and how they have few cases now. By now we have had enough of a test group to know how the vaccine has effected people and it seems to be as good or better than vaccines that we have taken for a long time.
I was born in 1948. My husband tested Positive in December. No symptoms. He is refusing because he now thinks he has immunity.
 
Old 04-11-2021, 06:59 AM
 
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I don't believe your story. You claim to have done some thinking which is clearly not true.
I am not answering them. Same as I didn't the first time they contacted me. I do not want the vaccine, or any card, or passport.

I haven't deleted that text yet, so I do have PROOF of what that hospital sent me. Sorry, not going to post it.
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