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Old 04-09-2021, 04:35 PM
 
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Been hearing people claim that for at about 15 years. Still waiting.
Slowly then all at once.
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:13 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I did and NAFTA like policy isn't even on the table so why try to bring up what won't happen ?

Biden is trying to do again what he tried in 2014 and thought it worked. Give them money to stop the flow of illegals into this country.

Did it work in 2014 ? I say No, no it didn't.

Here's what Biden wants to do. Why not stick to "what is" vs "what you would like it to be" ?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...ly-processing/
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:18 PM
 
Location: USA
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Did it not occur to you that maybe if he helped their countries they won't come here in such large numbers?

No, apparently it did not.
Yeah, sure, like him and Obama did such a great job destroying Libya and Syria
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:24 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Did it not occur to you that maybe if he helped their countries they won't come here in such large numbers?

No, apparently it did not.
If he and Kamala didn't promise green cards and citizenship they wouldn't have come here in large numbers.

Now he's asking for nearly double what we give them each year as bribe money to governments to keep their people within their borders.
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:33 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Did it not occur to you that maybe if he helped their countries they won't come here in such large numbers?

No, apparently it did not.
Has it occurred to you that we have tried that approach? We have dumped billions into South America, Haiti, Mexico, etc. Money wont fix the problem because we cant control how those crap holes use it.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:22 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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In many Central American nations, you can do precisely that. Costa Rica, for example, is a popular place for Americans to move to.
I am not talking about Costa Rica, and you damn well know that. So an American citizen can own ocean or even waterfront in Mexico? Do you even have a remote idea about that which you speak? Does Costa Rica offer birthright citizenship for my children? Do i have a path to citizenship? Of course not it’s all designed so they can reneg on the deal once you empty your wallet.

Just so you know I have been involved with relief efforts in most of these places.

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Old 04-09-2021, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Has it occurred to you that we have tried that approach? We have dumped billions into South America, Haiti, Mexico, etc. Money wont fix the problem because we cant control how those crap holes use it.
And as I already pointed out, in the case of Mexico, which is the Latin American nation we have helped the most (largely via NAFTA), it has actually worked:
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Contrary to popular belief, US assistance to Mexico (notably in the form of NAFTA) has actually decreased the number of Mexicans immigrating (both legally and illegally) to the US since about 2005. It took a while for the change to happen, but happen it eventually did. The majority of the immigrants trying to sneak across the border nowadays are from Central America, not Mexico.

Since the nations of Central America are much smaller than Mexico, if we extended policies like NAFTA to Central America, we would be able to much quicker address their problems than we did with Mexico. Right-wingers are so busy trashing poor people crossing the border they're incapable of noticing that these policies helping other nations actually work, it just takes a while.
If you really want to prevent people from immigrating to the US from Central America in large numbers, the most effective thing to do would be to do something like extend NAFTA (or whatever it's called these days) to El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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he has been there for 3 months and look at all the cr@p he wants to pass. It wasn't bad enough his record since 1973. We get what we vote for.
Except we didn’t vote for him, there was voter fraud in a few key states to swing it. Trump was winning GA by 110,000 votes with 99% reporting and somehow lost it in the dead of night. Now they are flooding the zone trying to sweep it under the rug
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:28 PM
 
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At least you are accepting the vote. Thats progress.

Like democrats accept the "vote" when they lose. They are even hypocrites about that.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Except we didn’t vote for him, there was voter fraud in a few key states to swing it.
Only in the delusionary fantasies of Trump and the Trumpers.
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