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Old 04-09-2021, 07:39 PM
 
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Maybe more like humanitarian aid or even reparations. The area was devasted by two hurricanes in 2020 - part of the global warming arising from carbon dioxide emissions from guess who - not them. Half a million people lost their homes. These countries have no FEMA, can't print money like the US. It is a hopeless situation with people going homeless and hungry. They are truly refugees. And if we don't step up, China will and before you know it we will be dealing with Chinese military and missiles at our back door.

reparations for what? We already take millions of their poor and social problems, illegal and legal plus we send them aid every year since JFK to keep their corrupt system alive and the rich powerful families running the show. Most immigrants that come here are not refugees. If you label everybody in the world that is lower than the U.S. than anybody in the world qualifies to be here.


Why would China wants to attack us? they make good money thanks to politician like Corn Pops in Chief Biden. Do you understand that war cost money. If China can't make out stuff and all American corporation leave China, their economy will fall faster than timber.


Funny, even China knows the negative effects of illegal immigration, they don't want them and I don't see the NBA, Delta, Coke, Apple and the rest of the American corporations boycotting China. So it's about the money, the bottom line.



China doesn't have then missiles or army to invade us and they are not that stupid.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:41 PM
 
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Only in the delusionary fantasies of Trump and the Trumpers.

of course, fraud ONLY exists when Democrats loses. It's only the other side that does fraud and oppresses votes and Democrats are the good guys. LMAO!
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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of course, fraud ONLY exists when Democrats loses. It's only the other side that does fraud and oppresses votes and Democrats are the good guys. LMAO!
There was no fraud when Trump won in 2016, and no democrat said there was. Russia influencing the election is not "fraud." That is, the Russians did not create fake votes. It is only when Trump lost last year that Trump and the Trumpers decided they didn't like the results, so in their delusions they decided there must be fraud. They simply cannot accept that they lost, because they are delusional.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:57 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Looks like biden now want to "invest" $861 BILLION for Central America. So glad to hear that all of our towns and cities are in such good shape that there's no need for our tax dollars to be spend within our own borders.
That is so racist, for Biden & Harris to think like that.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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Contrary to popular belief, US assistance to Mexico (notably in the form of NAFTA) has actually decreased the number of Mexicans immigrating (both legally and illegally) to the US since about 2005. It took a while for the change to happen, but happen it eventually did. The majority of the immigrants trying to sneak across the border nowadays are from Central America, not Mexico.

Since the nations of Central America are much smaller than Mexico, if we extended policies like NAFTA to Central America, we would be able to much quicker address their problems than we did with Mexico. Right-wingers are so busy trashing poor people crossing the border they're incapable of noticing that these policies helping other nations actually work, it just takes a while.
and your source is? 1 U.S. Dollar = 20.15 Mexican pesos and the corruption in Mexico is still the same and worse in many areas since the drug cartels has half of the Mexican government in their pockets. That's even after NAFTA. NAFTA hasn't fix Mexico's problem of corruption and the drug cartel and other problems

The Average yearly salary in Texas is $92,450. In D.F. Mexico is $12,500. ( that's 636% difference)
The average interest rate in the U.S. is 3.5% in Mexico is 10.5%.


Gasoline is 50% more expensive in Mexico.

Let me translate that you. You make 636% less in Mexico, you pay 3 times the interest rates and you pay almost 50% more in gas and add the social benefits of free schools and a better system and that's why they come. The difference is not even in the same ball park for them to stop coming, not even on the same planet so stop with the B.S.

Let me make it personal with you, let's us cut your salary by 600%, raise your interest rates 3 times and raise your gasoline by 50% and see if you stay in the same place.


NAFTA helped mostly the rich and corporations and governments on both sides, it didn't do much for the people in Mexico because the numbers doesn't show it.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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and your source is? ..
Did you even read what I wrote? I gave the sources in my post.

It is a FACT that immigration both legal and illegal from Mexico has been declining for 10-15 years. Why do you think that is?
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Contrary to popular belief, US assistance to Mexico (notably in the form of NAFTA) has actually decreased the number of Mexicans immigrating (both legally and illegally) to the US since about 2005. It took a while for the change to happen, but happen it eventually did. The majority of the immigrants trying to sneak across the border nowadays are from Central America, not Mexico.

Since the nations of Central America are much smaller than Mexico, if we extended policies like NAFTA to Central America, we would be able to much quicker address their problems than we did with Mexico. Right-wingers are so busy trashing poor people crossing the border they're incapable of noticing that these policies helping other nations actually work, it just takes a while.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:09 PM
 
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There was no fraud when Trump won in 2016, and no democrat said there was. Russia influencing the election is not "fraud." That is, the Russians did not create fake votes. It is only when Trump lost last year that Trump and the Trumpers decided they didn't like the results, so in their delusions they decided there must be fraud. They simply cannot accept that they lost, because they are delusional.



the definition of fraud: wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.


Maybe you were in a coma under Trump but Democrats and the media accused Trump of that since he won of FRAUD with Russia. That's why we got years of millions of dollars in investigation. It was meant to tie down the Trump administration and make sure he doesn't win re-election.


Did the Democrat's and media's darling Stacey Abraham called the Georgia election fraud and she was applauded and supported by the Democrats and media? She still refuses to concede the election. I can go on with history , who the Democrats for years have question the system and elections. The hypocrisy stinks.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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No democrat (or anybody else) said Russia stuffed ballots or otherwise created fraudulent votes in the 2016 election. They merely said Russia exerted undue influence to sway legitimate voters to vote for Trump.

That is not the case with Trump and Trumpers after 2020. They cannot accept that Trump lost, so THEY are claiming that ballots were stuffed and thousands of fraudulent votes were cast.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:24 PM
 
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No democrat (or anybody else) said Russia stuffed ballots or otherwise created fraudulent votes in the 2016 election. They merely said Russia exerted undue influence to sway legitimate voters to vote for Trump.

That is not the case with Trump and Trumpers after 2020. They cannot accept that Trump lost, so THEY are claiming that ballots were stuffed and thousands of fraudulent votes were cast.

nah, they accused the whole Trump campaign and the administration of colluding with a nuclear power of getting him elected for bribes for him and the whole family and others in the campaign that threw a wrench into the Presidency and doubts for years. Like they say in Spanish: "Casi nada"

What the Trump campaigned alleges what NOT that. Their complain was that laws and regulations were not followed. What Stacey Abraham did in Georgia with the full support of the Democrat party and media was to call the system fraud and until this day she hasn't conceded so save me the B.S. and double standards.
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Old 04-09-2021, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
There have been just four documented cases of voter fraud in the 2016 election

Aside from a few isolated instances here and there, there was no fraud in the 2016 election, and there was no fraud in the 2020 election.
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