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Old 04-19-2021, 07:30 PM
 
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What kind of officer grabs the wrong side arm?
A negligent one.
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Old 04-19-2021, 07:30 PM
 
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The Minnesota statue states “consciously” and is not just defined as negligence. How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this officer consciously pulled her revolver, versus a mistakenly thinking it was her taser, in the heat of the moment. You would have to then believe that she new she had pulled her gun and intended shooting him, with the premeditated intent to cover her tracks my saying the word “taser” several times. I guess you must be a mind reader to know what she was thinking.
The state overcharged, and will lose the case.
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Old 04-19-2021, 07:32 PM
 
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A negligent one.
negligent is not a substitute for consciously. A word in the statute itself.

The DA was also negligent in utilizing a charge he can't win on.
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:37 PM
 
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negligent is not a substitute for consciously. A word in the statute itself.

The DA was also negligent in utilizing a charge he can't win on.
Irrelevant to the question that was posed.

The DA knows how the word is used for these purposes.
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:46 PM
 
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Irrelevant to the question that was posed.

The DA knows how the word is used for these purposes.
Words are not subjective. Plus it takes just one juror to hold every single word to its definition.

Potter will walk free, acquitted. As she should given the overcharging involved.
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Old 04-19-2021, 09:28 PM
 
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What are the charges against Chauvin?
Please see Jury instructions:

https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/med...ns04192021.pdf
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Old 04-20-2021, 06:26 AM
 
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negligent is not a substitute for consciously. A word in the statute itself.

The DA was also negligent in utilizing a charge he can't win on.
Exactly.
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Old 04-20-2021, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Wasn't meant for you...but for the poster thinking he/him/her/she/it/none of the above cited the correct statute....which he/him/her/she/it/none of the above didn't.
How did anything to which I said not align with this?

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For the record, I didn't reply because I had work and couldn't reply. I actually HAD quoted the statutes earlier. You just chose not to go back.

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Do you know what Minnesota considers murder-2 and murder-3?
Murder-2: causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of that person or another, but without premeditation
Murder-3: without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life

You sure you want to still wager against a murder conviction? It really looks like Chauvin is guilty of murder-3 if not murder-2 as well.



I think that anything short of murder-3, may resort in riots. A murder-2 conviction, we may if anything see sports riots (which I find stupid.) A total acquittal will be an issue and we will see riots. If you thought Rodney King's were anything 29 years ago, we ain't seen nothing yet. Why, I point to the above.



How much video was shown with Zimmerman killing Trayvon? George Floyd's death has been shown on every news station and on YouTube. Chauvin is much more known than Zimmerman.
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Old 04-20-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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And don’t fund them to rebuild. Let them live in the dumps they created.
Wo what percentage of the population of any urban center that is experiencing these 'riots' do you think are actively participating in the riots?

Do you have any idea?
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Old 04-20-2021, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Wo what percentage of the population of any urban center that is experiencing these 'riots' do you think are actively participating in the riots?

Do you have any idea?
Maybe between 15-25% tops. And that is live there. If you mean work or go there maybe 40% but I don't have data to support it. I think most people who go to riot don't typically frequent the businesses. Why, because they maybe known by workers or spotable.
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