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Old 04-12-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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While following his explicit instructions to keep his hands outside the window. The officer gave conflicting orders and continued to shout both orders. There is no way to unfasten your seat belt, and open the door to get out of the vehicle while keeping your hands outside of the vehicle.

One would think that officers would be trained to give clear non contradictory commands.
Third time tonight I'll ask the cops here....are they not seeing my post or just not very smart? How can someone obey threatening commands to keep your hands up and open a damn door at the same time? please note my fairness to the officer in this case and all my other posts on these subjects before you rattle off you "cop hater" bs please. Let's see some humanity for a change as opposed to the ego crap. Tell me that the Shaver killing was somehow justified and wasn't a deadly game if Simon says.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:37 PM
 
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Nazarro refused to follow the officer's explicit instructions. ("Get out of the car")


One would think an Army officer would know how to obey an order.
one would think that anyone with an IQ above an eggplant would know you can't open a car door without putting you hands down. kind of a dangerous move to make when guys are pointing guns at you telling you not to put your hands down ya know
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:52 PM
 
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Tolerate? It's not a question of tolerating it, it's clear what happened. She made a deadly mistake. She will lose her job most likely, and her life will probably be ruined.

The point is that none of it would have happened if he allowed them to arrest him. Period. Cops have to be able to stop people from fleeing, or no one will comply. Period. Not debatable. Those points are not disputable to any grown up with an IQ over 60.

She intended to taze him, which she was fully justified doing. All evidence points to taht.

Unless you think she decided to pretend to want to taze someone but actually kill them because..I don't know, it's fun, or because here Klan chapter leader told her to do it, there's nothing to "tolerate".
She's going to prison. Involuntary Manslaughter.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:08 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I’ve been saying this for years. All you have to do is be polite and respectful and listen to the officers instructions. If the officer asks you to stop. You stop. Simple as that.
But it's not that simple, especially when the cops are corrupt or racist. In a world where everything is perfect, or in your world that may be the case. There are just double standards when it comes to many of these situations, what applies to one group does not always applies to the other.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:51 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Third time tonight I'll ask the cops here....are they not seeing my post or just not very smart? How can someone obey threatening commands to keep your hands up and open a damn door at the same time? please note my fairness to the officer in this case and all my other posts on these subjects before you rattle off you "cop hater" bs please. Let's see some humanity for a change as opposed to the ego crap. Tell me that the Shaver killing was somehow justified and wasn't a deadly game if Simon says.
Hi dman, since no one else is saying anything, I will. I was going to answer earlier but since this thread is an utter crap show of misinformation, sometimes it’s best to just ignore it. Anyway, on a felony stop, one Officer gives the orders to the driver, the other Officers are cover. The orders are very specific “with your left hand and your left hand only...” followed up by “Slowly!” etc.. you get the idea. Multiple orders is a recipe for disaster. I know that after a pursuit, some guys run in, mistakes are made, I’ve see. It happen. The thing to remember is “what’s the rush?” You got him stopped, back up is coming, no need to charge in right away. Adrenaline sometimes wins the battle over patient thought and training. Just my 5 cents, I hope that answers your question.
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Maine
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But it's not that simple, especially when the cops are corrupt or racist. In a world where everything is perfect, or in your world that may be the case. There are just double standards when it comes to many of these situations, what applies to one group does not always applies to the other.
But it totally does. Remember the golden rule. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. It costs nothing to be polite and courteous to law enforcement. They are just doing their jobs and trying to keep people safe. Doesn’t matter what color your skin is, your gender, your religion, none of it matters. If you are pulled over you simply say “what can I do for you officer?” Yes sir, no sir. Simple, polite, courteous. Guarantee the officer will respond in kind.
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:37 PM
 
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Why do we tolerate police killing someone just because they were fleeing
Why flee in the first place when you know you will probably get killed?
Oh, cuz of the arrest warrant for carrying a gun without license?

I say, good riddance. Another scumbag down.

And salute to the police officers!
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:40 PM
 
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While fleeing a firearm is discharged...
Nice use of the passive, there. Not "an officer shot him while he was running away", nonono. That implicates the police and spoils the narrative. But "a firearm was discharged", why - that's hardly anyone's fault.
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:47 PM
 
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Because you’re not a police officer, and don’t have to pull over people with active warrants.

If criminals want to turn their traffic stop into a death sentence, that’s on them. But you’re being apprehended one way or another.
IMO, it’s a lot better.
Saves tax payers a lot of money in providing three hot meals a day, gym, library, internet, temp controlled housing, shower facilities, health care, and security for years when these criminals live in jails and prisons.

We work extremely hard to earn an honest living. I don’t want my tax dollars being spent on them convicted scumbags and thugs that mostly become more seasoned and more thick skinned in jails.
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:47 PM
 
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Don't resist. That's it. That's all one has to do.
Like this guy? The officer's defense, incidentally, was that he was aiming for the guy in the grey shirt. Who was holding a toy truck.

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