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Old 04-15-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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Originally Posted by Myghost View Post
And watch the hypocricy blossem:

Same republicans that celebrated Trump's success in getting the vax will blame Biden for the deaths
Same Republicans who said the virus only affects a small number, will use 1 death and 8 potential reactions out of 6.8 million as "evidence" of a crisis
Same Republicans that don't believe the media will hype these hyped media reports because it fits their agenda.
and on and on and on...
I don't know why people make this political, as if that matters at all. You dont see anyone on the left praising Trump for the emergency status approval do you? Goes both ways, therefore it's really not productive to think of what's happening through those lenses, but too many people do.

The people who immediately go to left-right American politics don't see the bigger picture and have fallen for the media propaganda.

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No, not YOUR RNA. They use a small clip of lab created RNA that will allow us to create the spike protein antigen when injected. Our body then directs our immune system to counter that antigen. And thus immune to the virus.
Yeah sure...

 
Old 04-15-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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I don't know why people make this political, as if that matters at all. You dont see anyone on the left praising Trump for the emergency status approval do you? Goes both ways, therefore it's really not productive to think of what's happening through those lenses, but too many people do.

The people who immediately go to left-right American politics don't see the bigger picture and have fallen for the media propaganda.



Yeah sure...
You can learn or not.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ines/mrna.html
 
Old 04-15-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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OK a pause. Next possibility might be to give only to males. But IMO since there are better alternatives, the vaccine in question will be withdrawn or sent to the third world.
haha..that was on their slides at their advisory board meeting. They discussed all possibilities to move forward.

First was give the vaccine to males only. One bullet was below that. "Not feasible".

Not one question. No addition comment on why it was not feasible. Nothing. That was not touched with a 10 foot pole.

And we all know why. Yeah..society killed that "differentiating" factor of humans so it's no longer a viable option.

Another option was "over 50" but again..social issues came up about that.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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No, not YOUR RNA. They use a small clip of lab created RNA that will allow us to create the spike protein antigen when injected. Our body then directs our immune system to counter that antigen. And thus immune to the virus.
You explained that better than Moderna on their own website. Words matter. They are getting everything they deserve. They can't change their name either. It would appear they need a technical writer that can simply focus on biology. (Any HS biology teacher could probably do a better job). They dug a big hole by mentioning gene therapy on their SEC filing too. Some of this may be just semantics...IDK

When I looked over their site with just the simple knowledge that they are a silicon valley biotech start up ran by a man with no science background but instead sales and marketing it caused me to raise an eyebrow. All of the lofty computer geek speak didn't help either.

A person wouldn't even have to do a deep dive on Moderna like I did to be concerned. Just knowing that they were using language more attractive to tech entrepreneurs than actual scientists was enough for me to ask, "Just what kind of f*uckery is this?"
 
Old 04-15-2021, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Come now, they said " Yeah sure..."

We all know that you can't argue back with actual science when they have such a detailed reasonable response.

 
Old 04-15-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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haha..that was on their slides at their advisory board meeting. They discussed all possibilities to move forward.

First was give the vaccine to males only. One bullet was below that. "Not feasible".

Not one question. No addition comment on why it was not feasible. Nothing. That was not touched with a 10 foot pole.

And we all know why. Yeah..society killed that "differentiating" factor of humans so it's no longer a viable option.

Another option was "over 50" but again..social issues came up about that.
Medical males, then there are social males.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 10:52 AM
 
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Medical males, then there are social males.

So, real males vs play males. Gotcha.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 11:00 AM
 
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Yeah, you're gonna need to show your math on that one, homie.

8 in 6.8M is NOT 1.8%, it's not even in the same universe.
Ever wonder why flu seemed to disappear during covid?
Seems many deaths were blamed on covid to try to justify other plans.

“More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ess-italy-says
 
Old 04-15-2021, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Medical males, then there are social males.
There are people out there that got their birth certificates changed.
Doesn't matter though because that option was off the table quicker than it was put on the table.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 01:30 PM
 
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I am waiting since I already have natural immunity to Covid, and even without that I would wait. No people who were previously infected with Covid were included in Pfizer's clinical trials.

Trust that this rushed vaccine from Pfizer is safe? This being said while they have no legal liability? I don't think so.
This is Pfizer's rap sheet. A short version. There are more complete versions out there.

https://www.corp-research.org/pfizer

One short quote:

"In the area of product safety, Pfizer’s biggest scandal involved defective heart valves sold by its Shiley subsidiary that led to the deaths of more than 100 people. During the investigation of the matter, information came to light suggesting that the company had deliberately misled regulators about the hazards."
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