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Old 04-13-2021, 10:31 AM
 
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All immigration drives down wages. More than a million legal immigrants come to the United States every year, very few of them are "doctors and scientists".

The Republicans had total control of Congress for two years and did basically nothing about illegal immigration. They like illegal immigration, they just pretend not to because their constituents don't like it. There are probably 20 million illegals in this country, and the Republican Party has ZERO interest in deporting them. And why would they? That is a significant part of the economy. And both parties work for business.
30 million is what some estimate.


And if we include all those given illegal "birthright" citizenship (it is illegal), there are probably 50 million illegals in America today.
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Old 04-13-2021, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Why would progressives and liberals (hysterical or otherwise) want to take his show off the air? It's comedy gold, Jerry!
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Old 04-13-2021, 10:35 AM
 
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Why would progressives and liberals (hysterical or otherwise) want to take his show off the air? It's comedy gold, Jerry!
Well they're pathological liars (liberals), so it makes sense that they would find the truth funny.
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Old 04-13-2021, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Love Tucker Carlson. It’s amazing how triggered folks get from him, and they obviously watch, listen to, read about, etc..., about him all day everyday. Being so triggered that they want him taken off the air is priceless. They truly believe cancel culture refers to everyone and everything that hurts their feelings.
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Old 04-13-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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Well they're pathological liars (liberals), so it makes sense that they would find the truth funny.
It's an entertainment show that openly acknowledges that no reasonable person takes what he says as truth...

You know you'll fall if you run off a cliff and don't have to look down first like Wile E. Coyote, right?
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Old 04-13-2021, 11:03 AM
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All immigration drives down wages. More than a million legal immigrants come to the United States every year, very few of them are "doctors and scientists".

The Republicans had total control of Congress for two years and did basically nothing about illegal immigration. They like illegal immigration, they just pretend not to because their constituents don't like it. There are probably 20 million illegals in this country, and the Republican Party has ZERO interest in deporting them. And why would they? That is a significant part of the economy. And both parties work for business.
Yes and no. The Republicans controlled the House and the Senate but only had a 4 seat majority in the Senate. They tried to get immigration reform done but Democrats refused to work with them unless Republicans gave them completely unreasonable concessions like not building a border wall. Democrats also kept moving the goalposts on the number of DACA "dreamers" the president had to give citizenship to before they would work with him and the Republicans. Trump even offered more than Democrats had wanted to grant citizenship to years before but that wasn't enough.

Democrat's argument against a border wall on the grounds that it was too costly and wouldn't be as effective as other "security measures" like drones/cameras was completely illogical and disingenuous. That's like spending $250k walling off the entire property and adding security cameras on top of the wall looking OUTSIDE the property to secure the 15,000 sq ft home you just paid $10 million for but arguing against spending another $75k to add a security gate to secure the driveway so an intruder can't enter the property there and arguing against spending an additional $25k to put alarms and cameras INSIDE the house where they will actually be effective. That's analogous to the claims that a wall as opposed to more drones would be "too expensive" or the "walls don't work" argument Democrats were making in opposition to Trump's plan to build a wall.

As I said in my last post, Republicans aren't totally without blame when it comes to turning a blind eye to illegal immigration either so you have a point there. Having said that, it wouldn't matter if all Republicans were super serious about securing the border because of the Senate filibuster the Democrats used to kill any meaningful immigration reform being pushed by the president. Democrats that point out how the Republicans didn't fix illegal immigration (and admittedly when Republicans make the same claim about Democrats failing to get their signature legislation passed) either fail to understand or admit is that having a Senate majority is irrelevant if the margin is slim and you can't get the 60 votes needed to pass legislation into law due to the filibuster. The same filibuster ironically that Democrats now claim is a racist relic of Jim Crow was lauded as an absolutely necessary safeguard against an out of control dictator like Trump just 3 short years ago. Amazing how the narrative on the filibuster conveniently changes now that Democrats control the House, Senate, and White House.
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Old 04-13-2021, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The Republicans controlled the House and the Senate but only had a 4 seat majority in the Senate.
You're too caught up in this R vs D game. Someday you'll see the bigger picture.

If the money didn't want immigration, there wouldn't be any immigration. The reason neither party wants to deport the 20-30 million illegal immigrants already here, is because they're good for the economy. The only real debate over immigration has to do with crime and drugs, and preventing insufficiently-educated third-world immigrants from voting "the wrong way"(IE things that oppose the interests of the rich).

The money always gets what it wants. Always has, always will.
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Old 04-13-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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You're too caught up in this R vs D game. Someday you'll see the bigger picture.

If the money didn't want immigration, there wouldn't be any immigration. The reason neither party wants to deport the 20-30 million illegal immigrants already here, is because they're good for the economy. The only real debate over immigration has to do with crime and drugs, and preventing insufficiently-educated third-world immigrants from voting "the wrong way"(IE things that oppose the interests of the rich).

The money always gets what it wants. Always has, always will.
Yep, it would be far more effective to go after the employers of illegal immigrants. But they don't really want the problem to be fixed as our economy is too dependent on them. And those employers fill their re-election campaigns.
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Old 04-13-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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The great replacement is literally

You can deny it, but it's happening, and you and all the leftists know it.


And liberals in charge of America have literally said that is what they are doing.


Tucker gave examples of liberals openly stating how they want to replace native (white and black, BTW) Americans.


Not surprising you guys deny having said it. Not surprising at all.
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Old 04-13-2021, 11:55 AM
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Well they're pathological liars (liberals), so it makes sense that they would find the truth funny.

The funniest part is that TC's critics don't even make an attempt to logically dispute the points he makes because they know deep down he is almost always spot on. You can see it in a couple of the ad hominem attacks and strawman arguments in this thread. If critics actually took the time to watch the video and apply LOGIC and intellectual honesty instead of hyperpartisan emotion and propaganda to argue against his point instead of totally dismissing it out of hand you could respect it and maybe we could have reasonable debates again.

Unfortunately, Tucker's debatable but valid point that has to do with THE VOTES of all natural born U.S. citizens of ALL races, colors, creeds, religions, etc being replaced or at least diluted and NOTHING to do with the people themselves being replaced (which btw would qualify as an endorsement of "replacement theory" if that was in fact what he was suggesting which he was not) is intentionally being misconstrued by those wanting to get him kicked off the air. The outrage mob knows that cancel culture doesn't exist in a court of law setting and therefore doesn't require intellectual honesty or logical arguments to be effective. In fact, it doesn't require any debate or counter argument at all. The left can't win the argument based on the merits or on the substance of its argument so it changes the rules in the middle of the game to confuse the issue (i.e. changing the meaning of "replacement theory" to try to match it to an argument that Tucker wasn't making). If they can't win people over to their way of thinking or even worse they get any pushback on their way of thinking, then change the rules of debate to attack and crush any dissenters. No more agreeing to disagree, everyone who disagrees with them must conform or else. That's apparently their new definition of "unity" in 2021.
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