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View Poll Results: Biden Job Performance
Approve 98 29.70%
Disapprove 224 67.88%
Undecided/unsure 8 2.42%
Voters: 330. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-20-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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Nope, we are discussing his national approval number here. As I said, an average of mainstream polls was dead on to the actual vote in measuring Biden's level of support in the country nationally.
You can cherry pick and "talk" about whatever you want. This thread was about "polls" in general, and they are ABSOLUTELY skewed to the left. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

Vanity Fair (a VERY liberal rag): “WRONG, WRONG, WRONG”: CAN THE AMERICAN POLLING INDUSTRY SURVIVE ITS 2020 MELTDOWN?

Even Nate Cohn and Nate Silver wrote post mortems after 2020.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wh...olling-in-2020

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/13/93445...ntial-election

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ction-1091176/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-mostly-wrong/

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/polit...sters/2224815/

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/07/elec...reckoning.html

https://nypost.com/article/the-real-...again-in-2020/

https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/11/30...hat-went-wrong

https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/...issue-polling/

https://qz.com/1932176/why-the-polls...2020-election/

https://news.northeastern.edu/2020/1...-2016s-errors/

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-ed...tical-polling/

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/pol...246973372.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-2020-meltdown
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You can cherry pick and "talk" about whatever you want. This thread was about "polls" in general
The thread is about Biden's approval rating, which is measured in national polls.

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they are ABSOLUTELY skewed to the left. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
Not in the case of Biden. We had a very acute test of the accuracy of national polls measuring his support just a few months ago. As I noted, they were dead on. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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We all know Biden would suck and he has proven to be so with his ridiculous and destructive policies.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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I know how you feel. I'm getting tired of constantly fact-checking and correcting these unsupported or misconstrued or just plain false claims by the RWNJs on this forum.
I tried that for a couple years on this thread. Decided I was wasting my time. IMO, it has turned into stormfront.

Many do not care about truth and facts. All they need is what they believe to be true.

How anybody could think what happened on Jan 6 is no different from thugs taking advantage of a protest is beyond me.

I am instructed by a relative who took up with a card carrying communist that Antifa does sometimes block highways and do some damage in order to demonstrate that people who think they control really don't.

IMO, that message is not coming through to the right. And is counter productive.

I can also testify that Soros does not pay anybody. But they'd never believe it.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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Not in the case of Biden. We had a very acute test of that just a few months ago. As I noted, they were dead on. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
I just gave you a dozen articles by largely left wing outlets with detailed analysis.

You can keep repeating the lie all you want, but it doesn't make you right.

I'd suggest reading the cold, hard data presented by those leftists to enlighten you.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Nope, we are discussing his national approval number here. As I said, an average of mainstream polls was dead on to the actual vote in measuring Biden's level of support in the country nationally.
You don't think maybe they threw out the garbage polls in order to come up with that average? There were a lot of garbage polls, mostly missing toward Biden. Paracord mentioned one; there are dozens more.

I imagine the NBC poll that was linked that says Biden is really popular is probably another one of these garbage polls.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You can keep repeating the lie all you want
Didn't lie to you. I gave you facts. You need me to break down the logic chain more specifically for you?

Fact 1: The RCP average is an average of national mainstream political polls
Fact 2: In the 2020 election, Biden's level of support was averaged in national polls to determine a number
Fact 3: People voted, the exact same percentage voted for Biden as his polls predicted

Clearly what we can infer from these facts is that national polls measuring Biden's level of support tend to be accurate.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:35 AM
 
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You don't think maybe they threw out the garbage polls in order to come up with that average? There were a lot of garbage polls, mostly missing toward Biden. Paracord mentioned one; there are dozens more.

I imagine the NBC poll that was linked that says Biden is really popular is probably another one of these garbage polls.
Any third grader knows that these aggregators tighten up in the final day or two before the election.

It's much more nuanced than that.

Looking at a single, final composite number and saying "Welp, the polls were fine," is lame. Even the lefties know they were a debacle again.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:36 AM
 
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So almost 75% of those who answered are Trumpers. I guess CD is the elephant's graveyard where Trumpers go to die.
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Old 04-20-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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Didn't lie to you. I gave you facts. You need me to break down the logic chain more specifically for you?

Fact 1: The RCP average is an average of national mainstream political polls
Fact 2: In the 2020 election, Biden's level of support was averaged in national polls to determine a number
Fact 3: People voted, the exact same percentage voted for Biden as his polls predicted

Clearly what we can infer from these facts is that national polls measuring Biden's level of support tend to be accurate.
Bro, the final RCP average was Biden plus 7.2.

The final actual result was Biden plus 4.5.

What numbers are you looking at??
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