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This isn't 1 man and 1 woman having a baby, this is 1 man and 1 woman having multiple babies with multiple partners.
I can't even find the statistics for what the current percentage is. Black statistics are notoriously difficult to find due to liberal censorship and biased google algorithms.
This isn’t a problem that the CD PaOC forum can fix. The OP started the thread simply to churn up racial comments and judgmental false claims about single mothers. The problem is less one of out of wedlock births than the failure of lasting parental pairs raising children. That is associated with the high incarceration rate of black men. As our fathers or grandfathers had common experiences with going to war, black men have a common experience of incarceration or police intervention. Our criminal justice system is contributing to the problem.
I had a candid conversation once about this with about six or seven black teen girls sitting on a front porch. (I was familiar in the neighborhood as a caseworker.) A couple girls had a kid already and a couple were pregnant and the others were not. These were children with children. They essentially said that they can’t count on having a long lasting relationship with a guy because it breaks up too easy. They disappear or are distracted. But — being a mom is a longtime loving relationship with a baby or a growing child or a couple kids. Chances are that they come from a single mom household so that is what they know. White people clucking and pointing at the problem or waving statistics is not going to help. Teen boys join gangs because that is a family bond that they don’t have or can’t count on at home. It is seemingly part of the same problem— like the flip side. I would think that an institution like black churches could be positioned to work on the issue. This is not a political problem.
You experience with the girls is the same my teacher relative had. The girls all said they wanted a child so they would have somebody to love and who loved them forever.
33% is 1/3, so 1/3 of African American men have a felony. That is a fact.
Whether they went to prison is up to a judge, not up to you.
I'll tell you another fact, 33% is a hell of a lot less than 'the majority'. Your claim was the majority of black men are in prison or have been to prison.
FALSE.
You're quibbling over me saying less than 1/3 have a felony now? LOL. Actually 33% is just a tiny bit less than 1/3, buddy. 1/3 expressed as a percentage would be 33.3333333333333333333.............
High crime areas are targets for increased policing.
But this thread is supposed to be about unwed mothers. And the fact is that a child with an unwed mother is much more likely to live in a single parent household than a child that is not born out of wedlock.
ok, and? If the point isn't to talk about welfare and crime, then you are just talking about your concern for the children? If that is the case, why isn't CD just as interested in other populations with high rates? Why are the threads about only black people?
I'll tell you another fact, 33% is a hell of a lot less than 'the majority'. Your claim was the majority of black men are in prison or have been to prison.
That was not my claim. Your statement was that 1/3 of black males are not felons, which is false.
As far as prison, blacks are still disproportionately represented there as well. So I'm not sure why you're claiming 14% of the the U.S. population representing 38%+ of the prison system is some achievement.
The highest percentage blacks are "allowed" to be in prison is 14%, and we are more than double that. That's not something ti brag about.
This isn’t a problem that the CD PaOC forum can fix. The OP started the thread simply to churn up racial comments and judgmental false claims about single mothers. The problem is less one of out of wedlock births than the failure of lasting parental pairs raising children. That is associated with the high incarceration rate of black men. As our fathers or grandfathers had common experiences with going to war, black men have a common experience of incarceration or police intervention. Our criminal justice system is contributing to the problem.
I had a candid conversation once about this with about six or seven black teen girls sitting on a front porch. (I was familiar in the neighborhood as a caseworker.) A couple girls had a kid already and a couple were pregnant and the others were not. These were children with children. They essentially said that they can’t count on having a long lasting relationship with a guy because it breaks up too easy. They disappear or are distracted. But — being a mom is a longtime loving relationship with a baby or a growing child or a couple kids. Chances are that they come from a single mom household so that is what they know. White people clucking and pointing at the problem or waving statistics is not going to help. Teen boys join gangs because that is a family bond that they don’t have or can’t count on at home. It is seemingly part of the same problem— like the flip side. I would think that an institution like black churches could be positioned to work on the issue. This is not a political problem.
I agree. This looks more to me like guys who have put their fists through multiple layers of drywall ( maybe ripped a few doors off their hinges) try and postulate what could be wrong with black men. It seems the have backed off the marriage thing when it was discovered that implicated too many people.
Go ahead and post proof. I've looked it up and posted proof in the other direction in every one of these threads on CD.
Less than 1/3 of black men have a felony.
I bet over 1/2 have been in jail or have been questioned by law enforcement.
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