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Old 04-14-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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Why so much blaming the victim? Non-compliance did not kill him nor was his death the foreseeable result of non-compliance. Remember Colin Powell was seen selling his father-in-laws gun to someone in the Pentagon parking lot? An MP told him to get in the back seat of a squad car but he did not comply and called his superiors.

An accidental shooting killed the man. Focus on that.


Can you verify that claim? It sounds doubtful to me.
What she did was indefensible. She clearly was responsible. She deserves to be charged with 2nd degree manslaughter.

That said, if he had not tried to run, she would not have tried to taze him and yes, he'd be alive.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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That said, if he had not tried to run, she would not have tried to taze him and yes, he'd be alive.
If his car was correctly licensed he would not have been stopped. Like that Army officer in VA.

Why not focus on avoiding police interactions by not providing them with a reason to stop a person? I think its best to avoid situation where a driver could become emotional and a cop could be worried about his or her safety.

On taser mistakes, didn't that cop in Oakland get criminally convicted for mistakenly using his handgun instead of the taser a few years ago?
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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You want to be the cop who has to go to track him down to his house and arrest him afterwards, where he might have more weapons and maybe hostages too?

No......I didn't think so.
What about the innocent victim he takes out while running from the law in the car or later on the person he shoots as he is mugging them? Those are the true innocent victims. Leftists care NOTHING about the true innocent. What about the child (likely black) that gets caught in his crossfire?

I really don't get their empathy for those who choose to wield guns, disobey the courts, and run from officers. Given leftist's hate for firearms, one would think they would be celebrating one less gun owner. Oh, they would, only if he was white, Christian, conservative, hard working, on time, pays taxes, etc. The mind of a leftist is a sick, twisted place.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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So running from cops warrants death. Okay the ...
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That seems to be a theme on these boards. If you run from police you deserve to be shot. .....
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What she did was indefensible. She clearly was responsible. She deserves to be charged with 2nd degree manslaughter.

That said, if he had not tried to run, she would not have tried to taze him and yes, he'd be alive.
Exactly right. He is 100% responsible for setting in motion the chain of events that led to his demise. He didn't "deserve to be shot", but had he complied with police orders then he'd still be alive today.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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He's was a pos and he caused it. the people his type support are the ones who got him his record. Take responsibility for yourself at some point people. This loser would have floyded himself at some point. I wonder how much money his "family" will get from tax payers.
If this were the case, then any time an officer stopped a person with a police record, they could shoot the person if they resisted arrest, and claim the shooting was justified because the person was a POS and might die one day anyway. Why would anyone allow the police to speak to them, if the police shooting them can be justified so trivially?

A lot of famous people had been career criminals, but turned their lives around.

Will Smith — aggravated assault, criminal conspiracy
Vanilla Ice — possession of a firearm, assault and battery
Christian Slater — drunk driving, assault, possession of a firearm, sexual assault
Mike Tyson — had over 40 arrests for everything from petty crimes to aggravated assault
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Even in China not complying with the police doesn't automatically warrant death. But here in America a lot of people seem to think so. You got to love this country.
This country is a lot more violent. China’s police can afford to be more “gentle†because they are not at risks of being killed. The police in this country has to be more weary and defensive because we are more violent.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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He didn't "deserve to be shot", but had he complied with police orders then he'd still be alive today.
Sure. And if that college woman hadn't been lying drunk next to a dumpster, she wouldn't have been raped. Focus on what action was the proximate cause of the tragedy -- don't blame the victim.

'Post hoc ergo propter hoc'?, that is, not every precursor is a cause.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:10 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Thinly veiled.
No, not thinly veiled. Just your Leftist political correctness making you believe everything is.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Exactly right. He is 100% responsible for setting in motion the chain of events that led to his demise. He didn't "deserve to be shot", but had he complied with police orders then he'd still be alive today.
He deserved to be tasered, not shot and killed. But point taken. If you are going to resist the police, you are unnecessarily escalating matters from a simple traffic stop, to a possible felony. A lot of people fleeing from the police end up injuring or killing innocent people with their car, during the police chase.
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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That's what BLM wants - lawlessness. So they can loot and kill all they want with no consequences.
they want to burn loot and murder without consequence. Take responsibility for your people.
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