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Old 04-16-2021, 04:12 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Subhumans? Are you for real? People with intellectual disabilities all have legal Guardians who must sign off before they receive a medical procedure, including medication and vaccinations. The Guardian acts as the disabled person’s Advocate. Educate yourselves before criticizing and spreading misinformation. Signed, the parent of an adult with intellectual disabilities.
Uhhhh... that one went right over your head, eh? You might want to think of what the "subhuman" reference was meant to imply. Hint: it was NOT that handicapped people are subhumans.
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Old 04-16-2021, 04:42 PM
 
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Subhumans? Are you for real? People with intellectual disabilities all have legal Guardians who must sign off before they receive a medical procedure, including medication and vaccinations. The Guardian acts as the disabled person’s Advocate. Educate yourselves before criticizing and spreading misinformation. Signed, the parent of an adult with intellectual disabilities.
Thank you!

As a doc I have had to engage legal guardians from time to time. It can still be a difficult process for all.
With Covid 19 this all hits really hard in our patients with Down Syndrome. For whatever reason their risks are some of the highest as far as more serious disease and death.
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Old 04-17-2021, 02:18 AM
 
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Those administering the vaccine are paramedics.

https://lasd.org/operation-homebound/

"We are administering the Johnson & Johnson (1 shot only) vaccine utilizing our deputy sheriff personnel who are certified paramedics and emergency medical technicians."

The program is now on hold. Thanks, anti-vaxxers! You have prevented getting the vaccine to vulnerable people who cannot easily get out and go to a drugstore for it. Happy now?
could it be possible that a vaccine comes out and hurts a much higher population than previous vaccines. you know johnson and johnson knew it had asbestos in talcum powder and baby powder. yet this company was not held accountable. I am not 100 percent against vaccines but these companies put out other products that have caused ovarian cancer from the use of talcum powder.
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Old 04-17-2021, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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could it be possible that a vaccine comes out and hurts a much higher population than previous vaccines. you know johnson and johnson knew it had asbestos in talcum powder and baby powder. yet this company was not held accountable. I am not 100 percent against vaccines but these companies put out other products that have caused ovarian cancer from the use of talcum powder.
The vaccine contains no talcum powder. You do not have to worry.
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Old 04-17-2021, 03:03 AM
 
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The vaccine contains no talcum powder. You do not have to worry.
what other effects from this company that obviously does not care about the health of patients if it puts asbestos in their powder.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:09 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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what other effects from this company that obviously does not care about the health of patients if it puts asbestos in their powder.
Asbestos is found naturally in some sources of talc. Powder for cosmetic use is supposed to be asbestos free. Frankly, the case against J&J and cancer from its product is weak.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer...nd-cancer.html

https://www.self.com/story/asbestos-...-talc-products

The vaccine has nothing to do with talcum powder and should be judged on its own merits.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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If they can force vaccinate the mentally challenged they can hold you down and poke you with their poison.

here is a link and video of mentally challenged people forcibly being vaccinated by police officers.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/shock...bound-program/

How do you feel about this? does it get you excited? does it get you angry?

would you like to forcibly vaccinate someone?

if you were forced to take a vaccine would you fight back?

If someone killed these cops and I was on the jury i would rule not guilty. they could of injected these mentally challenged people with something that could kill them. This vaccine is experimental. I assume they have caregivers who make decisions for them. do you still think it's wrong?

do you have bad wishes for these police officers or do you like them?

do you think they will eventually do this to normal people?

They even vaccinate a Alzheimer's patient that is asleep. why? they are going to die soon anyway? They are going to come for you in the middle of the night ha ha!!
Many countries have some form of mental capacity legislation to defend the rights of such individuals and the right to choose, and where they do not have capacity to have a Court appointed power off attorney, Guardian or advocate, to speak and make decisions on their behalf and ion their best interest.

Mental Capacity Act 2005 - Wikipedia

International Human Rights legislation such as Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights also add further rights in respect of forced medical procedures.

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What is meant by private life?

Article 8 - The Right to Privacy and Family Life

You have the right to live your life privately without government interference.

The courts have interpreted the concept of ‘private life’ very broadly. It covers things like your right to determine your sexual orientation, your lifestyle, and the way you look and dress. It also includes your right to control who sees and touches your body. For example, this means that public authorities cannot do things like leave you undressed in a busy ward, or take a blood sample without your permission.

The concept of private life also covers your right to develop your personal identity and to forge friendships and other relationships. This includes a right to participate in essential economic, social, cultural and leisure activities. In some circumstances, public authorities may need to help you enjoy your right to a private life, including your ability to participate in society.

This right means that the media and others can be prevented from interfering in your life. It also means that personal information about you (including official records, photographs, letters, diaries and medical records) should be kept securely and not shared without your permission, except in certain circumstances.

Article 8: Respect for your private and family life - Equality and Human Rights Commission
I am sure the US has some form of similar mental capacity legislation.whether at a state or federal level, and I know the US uses a similar system relating to Power of Attorney.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:46 AM
 
Location: My house
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This is a great idea, but falls short. This should be expanded to everyone, everywhere. Every Sheriff's officer should be trained as a social worker and emt/paramedic as well as carry a gun to force you to be healthy. I look forward to when the police can enforce doctors appointments with deadly means.
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Old 04-17-2021, 04:55 AM
 
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Infowars is leaving out that the police aren't randomly showing up in people's home and administering the vaccine. Whoever has the power of attorney for this individual would need to sign the waiver for them.

But it is disturbing to see folks who are so afraid of needles. I know folks who are hesitant to get the vaccine because they fear needles not because they fear the vaccine itself.
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Old 04-17-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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what other effects from this company that obviously does not care about the health of patients if it puts asbestos in their powder.
A company that creates a vaccine to potentially save the health and lives of millions and this company does not care about the health of patients.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Cogn...4dUDCAk&uact=5
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