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Old 12-25-2021, 07:57 AM
 
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I wouldn't say that. Yet, have you read all the arguments both pro and con regarding the COVID vaccines? Or did you say to yourself something like "Well, the government and the MSM think it's okay and that's good enough for me"?

I've read the arguments against the vaccine. I have a friend who is constantly sending me anti-vax links. OTOH, I've also read the arguments for the vaccine. By doing so, I've come to my own conclusions as to what I'm going to do about it.
I checked with my doctor.

I figure if I trust her to guide me through health decisions in non-pandemic times, I should trust her medical judgement.

I also happen to know a few folks who are doctors, and folks who have doctorates in various medical areas....so I used that info.

I ignored non-medical arguments for or against.

AND while I feel confident with the vaccine, I do not support government mandates. Not because of any 'freedom' thing because if I was inclined to fight against the govt. I'd me fighting all day long as various government agencies mandate my lifestyle.

I support the government, community organizations talking about why we should get the vaccine and then letting folks continue their search for more info. I believe the govt. mandates only create a defensive reaction to any policy that might be effective, even slightly, in slowing the spread.
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Old 12-25-2021, 10:02 AM
 
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i know many liberals living in NJ. some of them are even in my immediate family. emotion. they are scared and react accordingly. i have a female college student in my family. she just got her covid booster, is very scared about climate change, and thinks that China is our friend, guns make her uncomfortable to name a few. she is certainly entitled to her own opinions. her generation doesnt see the big picture. liberty is taken for granted. they will give their government more power willingly and be happy to do so. so yeah, just emotional reactions. the result of a privileged and spoiled society. by the time they realize what a hole they dug for themselves, it will be too late and sadly they will have no idea why.
They don't lack critical thinking skills. Give them a bunch of information they agree with and they can pick it apart critically and create arguments for it.

They lack the ability to assess UNBIASED and/or BALANCED information. From multiple sources.

It's a social feedback loop. They are always right because they only use sources that agree with their mindset, even if the facts don't.

We need unbiased thinkers. People who can assess information from multiple sources and weed out what's accurate. Very few liberal thinkers even attempt this. They simple go along with what they are told.

I remember in HS they taught us to 'know the opponents' argument. Today, that sentiment is replaced with insults and ad hominem, not unbiased overall research.
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Old 12-25-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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So with news that the Covid vaccines will likely need to be yearly if not multiple yearly, the left just accepts and supports this with no questions asked. No thought given to the logistics of billions of doses a year. No thought given to how much of a challenge just giving out shots now have been. No thought given to whether permanent social distancing and masks mandated by law can be a part of a free society. No questions asked lefties are sending us to a medical dictatorship where science is a religion that can never be questioned. Doctors our above questioning or reproach.

This is an insane world. I am shocked that so many who claim to be smarter and more enlightened can just accept and blindy support this nonsense with such enthusiasm. Yearly vaccines and permanent masks/social distancing is beyond crazy. Anyone who supports this nonsense is brain dead.

Extremists on both sides of the political fence lack critical thinking skills. At the moment, it seems like more left leaning folks are bat-crap insane, but that hasn't always been then case. Interestingly (and ironically), its actually the right that seems to be incapable of applying critical thinking skills to the Covid situation. All this nonsense about rights, government over reach, and some fantastic world-wide conspiracy to suppress the peasants via vax/mask mandates is next-level tin-foil hat nonsense, nearly rivaling "wokeness" on the stupidity scale.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:55 AM
 
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So with news that the Covid vaccines will likely need to be yearly if not multiple yearly, the left just accepts and supports this with no questions asked. No thought given to the logistics of billions of doses a year. No thought given to how much of a challenge just giving out shots now have been. No thought given to whether permanent social distancing and masks mandated by law can be a part of a free society. No questions asked lefties are sending us to a medical dictatorship where science is a religion that can never be questioned. Doctors our above questioning or reproach.

This is an insane world. I am shocked that so many who claim to be smarter and more enlightened can just accept and blindy support this nonsense with such enthusiasm. Yearly vaccines and permanent masks/social distancing is beyond crazy. Anyone who supports this nonsense is brain dead.
Has there been studies on this? And if so, is it also on socialism or communism beliefs too?
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Old 01-02-2022, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley Oregon
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So with news that the Covid vaccines will likely need to be yearly if not multiple yearly, the left just accepts and supports this with no questions asked. No thought given to the logistics of billions of doses a year. No thought given to how much of a challenge just giving out shots now have been. No thought given to whether permanent social distancing and masks mandated by law can be a part of a free society. No questions asked lefties are sending us to a medical dictatorship where science is a religion that can never be questioned. Doctors our above questioning or reproach.

This is an insane world. I am shocked that so many who claim to be smarter and more enlightened can just accept and blindy support this nonsense with such enthusiasm. Yearly vaccines and permanent masks/social distancing is beyond crazy. Anyone who supports this nonsense is brain dead.
Welcome to the modern world. This forum included. There is NO escape but thru Jesus Christ sadly and many of us will answer to the sword for it.
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Old 01-02-2022, 09:19 AM
 
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I wonder if the OP ever figured out that "are" and "our" are two separate words with different meanings.
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