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Old 04-18-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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The huge difference between the US govt and China (or Russia) is that - the USA govt serves interests of the so called new world order and greedy big corporations, not people of America unlike Russian and Chinese govt that work for prosperity of their people.
The US army is leaving Afghanistan.
Did the war make Afghans richer? No, they are extremely poor.
Each American family paid $20,000 for the war. All money went to gun sellers.

China will move in, sell cheap merchandise, build roads, and open factories as it does in Africa.

 
Old 04-18-2021, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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ALWAYS RELY ON THE "BIG LIE"
Supporters will ignore it, but the opposition will waste time and effort rebutting it.
In fact, it's better to accuse your opposition of the crimes your own group is doing.
 
Old 04-18-2021, 06:50 PM
 
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They see the same news we see on Biden. They are testing the waters and the fragility of the President.
 
Old 04-18-2021, 08:01 PM
 
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Evil? Governments are not moral entities. They can try to be, but often, they will often do evil things in that pursuit. History shows us this. The USA government is supposed to be small and limited, because the founding fathers understood the nature of man, and government which is run by man.

The USA is a global superpower. For better of worse, we have been the world's police man for awhile now because the world became something of a vacuum after WW2. The world apparently wanted a police man because it allowed the USA to become that police man. If the world has a better way, by all means, go for it.

I highly doubt China or Russia are any less evil, if that's what you want to call it. They simply don't have the means to force their evil on others. China has become something of a pest for it's neighbors like the Philippines. They are stealing resources from the other side of the globe by fishing in foreign waters. They are starting to have the means to do things that people consider evil. It's not like they are some beacon of morality and hope in this world.
governments may not be, but the people behind them are immoral.

nobody asked the US to be the world police. initially our leaders then saw it as an opportunity to take on the role after the world was in shambles after WW2. and it wasn't for benevolent reasons. they saw it as an opportunity to prosper economically, which in itself is not evil.

but slowly that became one that was exploitative in nature. e.g. we imposed our will onto defenseless countries.
the power and influence that the MIC wielded, that eisenhower had the foresight to predict, was abused.
the covert operations that are kept secret from the public acted exactly like the mafia, either ousting democratic leaders or outright assassinating them.
 
Old 04-18-2021, 08:05 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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China constantly violating Taiwan’s airspace and threatening to eventually invade Taiwan. Russia amassing troops on Ukraine’s border and likely will invade Ukraine. Why is this all happening. What has exactly changed in the past four months. Could it be that the Chinese and Russians have no fear or respect for the current senile old fool residing in the White House. Could that be the reason...Just putting out there...what are your thoughts.
Do you think China and Russia fear the US ?
I got news for you...they don't.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:28 PM
 
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I think China and Russia are behaving the way they are for different reasons. With Russia it is just Putin being the troublemaker he has always been. China is a different story. China's demographic dividend is disappearing as their workforce is shrinking and their overall population is rapidly aging. The 2020s are the last decade before demographic destiny weakens China from within so they are acting aggressively to gain as much as possible before that happens.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 03:19 PM
 
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China constantly violating Taiwan’s airspace and threatening to eventually invade Taiwan. Russia amassing troops on Ukraine’s border and likely will invade Ukraine. Why is this all happening. What has exactly changed in the past four months. Could it be that the Chinese and Russians have no fear or respect for the current senile old fool residing in the White House. Could that be the reason...Just putting out there...what are your thoughts.
Because of stuff like this.

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Old 04-19-2021, 03:24 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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China constantly violating Taiwan’s airspace and threatening to eventually invade Taiwan. Russia amassing troops on Ukraine’s border and likely will invade Ukraine. Why is this all happening. What has exactly changed in the past four months. Could it be that the Chinese and Russians have no fear or respect for the current senile old fool residing in the White House. Could that be the reason...Just putting out there...what are your thoughts.

Or maybe it could be you projecting your own personal bias on the Chinese and Russians?

The reality is it's likely the traditional testing of the waters by Russia & China that every new POTUS undergoes. Maybe Putin's just upset by losing his BFF in the White House, the man who kissed his butt while throwing the entire US Intelligence Community under the bus on a very public stage. 'America First' my arse!
 
Old 04-19-2021, 05:44 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly View Post
China constantly violating Taiwan’s airspace and threatening to eventually invade Taiwan. Russia amassing troops on Ukraine’s border and likely will invade Ukraine. Why is this all happening. What has exactly changed in the past four months. Could it be that the Chinese and Russians have no fear or respect for the current senile old fool residing in the White House. Could that be the reason...Just putting out there...what are your thoughts.
Taiwan is part of China, so China can't violate its own airspace.

Russian troops on the border are the response to Nato's Defender 2021 exercise and Ukrainian troops moving East, breaking the ceasefire agreement. You should not confuse cause and effect.
https://youtu.be/PLF7fm6i1FM
 
Old 04-19-2021, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you think China and Russia fear the US ?
I got news for you...they don't.
The OP wants to believe this is something new in the worst way, it is not.
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