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Old 04-21-2021, 01:09 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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Yes, and some people have redefined racism such that only white people can be racist....
What is the objective fact you referenced earlier?
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Various
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What is the objective fact you referenced earlier?
That a man cannot wish himself into being a woman and vice versa. As you know. Just like Dolezal can't wish herself into being Black. There is no difference between the scenarios.

I get that you want to pretend otherwise though.

I eagerly await which trope you will select to continue the discussion.
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Old 04-21-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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That a man cannot wish himself into being a woman and vice versa. As you know. Just like Dolezal can't wish herself into being Black. There is no difference between the scenarios.

I get that you want to pretend otherwise though.

I eagerly await which trope you will select to continue the discussion.
Dolezal didn't wish herself black. She committed fraud for personal gain. Surely your not suggesting transgender people are trying to make themselves outliers for personal gain. If you've ever been the odd one out I think you'd understand that is not a comfortable place to be. No one puts themselves there without good reason.

I don't think the transgender issue is as simple as wishing yourself different sex. From what I understand they are differentiating between gender and sex. I don't know what it's like because my self image of my gender matches my sex. My sacred cow is autonomy so if someone tells me this is who they are then I am all for someone being true to themselves. Aside from problems with who can play sports what sports I don't see how they are infringing on anyone else. I say we leave these people be and allow them to live their lives and not abuse them simply because we don't understand.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Aside from problems with who can play sports what sports I don't see how they are infringing on anyone else. I say we leave these people be and allow them to live their lives and not abuse them simply because we don't understand.
Agree 100%, but the Archie Bunkers will say it infringes on them to HAVE to address these people (on the rare occasions their paths might possibly cross) using the method of address of the gender the person prefers.
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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So an 80 year old doesn't "get" transgender folks? Stop the press!
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:07 PM
 
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So an 80 year old doesn't "get" transgender folks? Stop the press!
Right? I tried referencing age with an atheist when discussing sexualizing women in professional situations and was called grubby.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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So, an award was stripped from a man(Dawkins) that doesn't think what the Nazi's did, was evil, by an agency that doesn't believe in objective morality, for him(Dawkins) saying things about trans people, that they(the humanist agency) don't think are morally 'right'?

Sounds like par for the course for people that believe in a worldview, rooted in absurdity.

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Old 04-21-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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It's always fun to watch the left consume each other.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:17 PM
 
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It's always fun to watch the left consume each other.
Why does that bring you pleasure?
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:17 PM
 
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It's always fun to watch the left consume each other.
Leftism, the state of parasitism and predation, and where what's considered moral and immoral is whatever their leaders say is on a given day.
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