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That statement would kind of presume the actual evidence for conviction was lacking though. It really wasn't.
I saw the murder 2 charge as borderline, but the jury felt his action met the standard of an unlawful assault. That's all the was needed for the murder 2 charge based on the additional fact that Floyd died.
But that would leave in my mind "if Floyd did not die, would Chauvin been charged and convicted for unlawful assault?"
My opinion is "no", thus why I disagree with the charge, let alone conviction, of the murder 2.
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Who wants to be a cop now?
Well, I think we all saw good cops testify that this isn't acceptable.
When you out a bad cop and kick him off the force, and even in this case imprison him, that raises the rest of the force. Not tolerating violent policing increases the reputation of those who won't tolerate it.
I am still confused as to how all the elements for Second Degree Murder were established.
Maybe it's the line:
Any Criminal Attorneys out there care to explain?
It’s called the felony murder rule - you’re guilty of murder if someone died while you committed a felony, even if you didn’t specifically intend to kill anyone. Hence “unintentional”.
Example: you and Joe go rob a bank. Police come and you, Joe and police exchange fire. Police kill Joe. Guess who’s on the hook for murder? You. Joe died while you were committing an armed robbery (and prob attempted murder as well), which are felonies, even though you had no intent to kill Joe.
In Chauvin’s case the felony was assault.
Most states have some form of the felony murder rule.
Just as it would have been if he had been acquitted on all counts.
Yes and no. We have to accept the verdict but don't have to agree with it. We have to accept the judicial process, but we don't have to agree the process is working as originally intended.
Can we remove police from Liberal cities? Let them live in their utopia that they desire (see CHAZ 2020). They think cops are hunting down minorities. Give them what they want. No police. See how long it takes before they start begging for police again.
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