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Old 04-21-2021, 01:51 PM
 
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That is what Alan Dershowitz is effectively suggesting.
Dershowitz shouldn't be "suggesting" anything without proof. But Fox doesn't demand proof for anything they broadcast so I understand why he doesn't feel the need.

If he has any evidence whatsoever that the jury acted out of fear and not on the merits of the case let him show it. Otherwise he is spreading fake news.

But again, he's on Fox, where fake news is the only kind they broadcast.
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Currently in Florida for a little while
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Do you have a link to share or some info to back that claim?

Just because you say it on a random internet forum, doesn't make it so

The jury was made up of people from Minneapolis, the city which BLM was threatening to destroy unless there was a guilty verdict.
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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Dershowitz shouldn't be "suggesting" anything without proof. But Fox doesn't demand proof for anything they broadcast so I understand why he doesn't feel the need.

If he has any evidence whatsoever that the jury acted out of fear and not on the merits of the case let him show it. Otherwise he is spreading fake news.

But again, he's on Fox, where fake news is the only kind they broadcast.
Proof according to who? You?

Professor Dershowitz is an widely recognized expert in these sorts of issues, and followed the trial and the related events carefully. He saw the evidence that the trial was not conducted fairly, some of which he noted in his quotes, which were contained in the article in the OP.

Dershowitz believes there is sufficient evidence to expect this verdict to be overturned. And he does not have to check with you on that before expressing his opinion about that. At least, not yet.
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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The jury was made up of people from Minneapolis, the city which BLM was threatening to destroy unless there was a guilty verdict.
Prove that that was the basis of the jury's decision and not just your own wishful thinking.
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Old 04-21-2021, 01:58 PM
 
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Prove that that was the basis of the jury's decision and not just your own wishful thinking.
Proof is not required for this. If it was possible any jury member was influenced by the statements OR the media...... it is enough to order a new trial.

Due process demands it.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Proof is not required for this. If it was possible any jury member was influenced by the statements OR the media...... it is enough to order a new trial.

Due process demands it.
Only IF a reasonable person could have been expected to possibly find reasonable doubt in the case absent the comments. If the appeals court finds there is little to no chance a different verdict could have been reached absent the comments then it should stand.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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They will need to present evidence on appeal that the jury might have had reasonable doubt if not for the inappropriate comments. I think that will be a tall order.
Exactly. Hard to think that watching the video of a cop kneeling on a man's neck three minutes after that man has taken his last breath would produce a different verdict than what it did. Pictures don't lie.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Newsmax. LOL

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The jury members were obviously afraid of retaliation and their livelihoods being destroyed by the leftwing gestapo if they gave any verdict other than guilty.
What "obvious" proof do you have?
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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Only IF a reasonable person could have been expected to possibly find reasonable doubt in the case absent the comments. If the appeals court finds there is little to no chance a different verdict could have been reached absent the comments then it should stand.
True, but I think it is a tall standard to say a reasonable person could not have found doubt. Besides no appeals court wants to encourage juror intimidation.
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Old 04-21-2021, 02:09 PM
 
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His professional 'opinion', was not on court record for this particular case.
He is not on the defense team or the prosecutors team.
Matter of fact he isn't a consultant for either court representative in this specific case.

Let him express his bias opinion.
He is a citizen . And sometimes citizens are open to stirring the pot.

I say put a lid on that pot.
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