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Old 04-22-2021, 07:44 AM
 
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Why should anybody be expected to work and contribute if it's not going to do them any good in the long run?
Maybe because they want/need some money NOW???
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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How do you expect them to make money? 15 people working to sling you $1 cheeseburgers.

Wendys is for highschool/college students + part time workers.

I worked at a BK in highschool and we were all highschool/college students, elderly or were special needs. Nobody was working there for their career.
Groups that are considered high risk for exposure themselves or, potentially, to others in their households.

Hmm...
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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And there it is.

Again, maybe, just maybe, people don’t want to work with a public that regards them with such contempt.
Not contempt. Just explaining why a job that a 12-year-old could do is worth so little.

And I am always polite to fast-food workers. Just because they have a minimal value on the market doesn’t mean they should be treated with contempt. But neither should they be paid more than the job is worth.
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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Eh, your link is only for Philadelphia county and it only goes to January of this year. You are being sneaky thinking no one will check up on your bogus claim.
Eh, those are the most current numbers available from the Fed, which is a logical place to check unemployment numbers. However, if you are able to find a chart, any chart, that shows that things haven't significantly improved since last year, I will gladly buy you a stuffed teddy bear. I tend to look at actual numbers instead of rely on anonymous internet posters talking about a local coffee shop as their metric (that's not exactly scientific).
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:56 AM
 
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Yesterday, I was at my office over the lunch hour and needed coffee in addition to my lunch.

I stopped at Wendy's, only to get the coffee. First thing I noticed was about 12 cars waiting in line at the drive through. So I parked the car and went in. There were less people in the store, than were outside and in line, so I wait about 3 minutes and then they take my order for my one cup of large black coffee.

Easy, right? Should have it in 2 minutes.

Nope. It took at least 15 minutes and probably more for me to get that cup of coffee since they only had 3 people working in the entire store. Wish I had it on video. My conclusion is that people and especially young people have decided it's easier to sit back and collect unemployment, than it is to go into work.

Tell me I'm wrong.
IDK. My grand is finishing HS. He has been working at Krystal this year for 7 something/hr. after school and weekends. They wanted him to work 32 hrs. a week. I said no. He has been looking for another job with no luck yet. At least Krystal is flexible with his school/sports schedule.

It does appear fast food is having difficulty getting people to work. I'm sure its more than just people dont want to work. Pay, hours, etc.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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Yesterday, I was at my office over the lunch hour and needed coffee in addition to my lunch.

I stopped at Wendy's, only to get the coffee. First thing I noticed was about 12 cars waiting in line at the drive through. So I parked the car and went in. There were less people in the store, than were outside and in line, so I wait about 3 minutes and then they take my order for my one cup of large black coffee.

Easy, right? Should have it in 2 minutes.

Nope. It took at least 15 minutes and probably more for me to get that cup of coffee since they only had 3 people working in the entire store. Wish I had it on video. My conclusion is that people and especially young people have decided it's easier to sit back and collect unemployment, than it is to go into work.

Tell me I'm wrong.
I think you partially came to a wrong conclusion for taking too long to get your coffee.

What you concluded wrong: As you already know, businesses are out there to make money. To make money, they reduce their expenditure/costs. Considering Covid, they are operating at the very minimal needed basis to reduce cost. Which could be an indicator of small staff. Furthermore, businesses are paying employees for only one position but requiring and mandating they do multiple positions once they get hired.

What we can agree: Why wouldn't anyone want to work at a minimum wage job when you can get even more collecting unemployment and not do anything. Of course they would choose the later, who wouldn't? Instead of concluding people don't want to work, blame the Government by creating this situation instead of just opening everything up and the businesses that won't pay a fair wage to increase their profits.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Now it’s WaPo? You move from a Leftist source to another. By the way, the author of your link is this:



No, she wouldn’t be biased. No way.
Ok, I mean, I've been to Copenhagen. For my sins, I've eaten at a McDonalds in Denmark. The prices are very similar, yet their pay is at least double.

Unless you can find a source that you deem acceptable that refutes the figures I've provided, I guess we're done here.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Originally Posted by BeerGeek40 View Post
Yesterday, I was at my office over the lunch hour and needed coffee in addition to my lunch.

I stopped at Wendy's, only to get the coffee. First thing I noticed was about 12 cars waiting in line at the drive through. So I parked the car and went in. There were less people in the store, than were outside and in line, so I wait about 3 minutes and then they take my order for my one cup of large black coffee.

Easy, right? Should have it in 2 minutes.

Nope. It took at least 15 minutes and probably more for me to get that cup of coffee since they only had 3 people working in the entire store. Wish I had it on video. My conclusion is that people and especially young people have decided it's easier to sit back and collect unemployment, than it is to go into work.

Tell me I'm wrong.
It's the point. The lockdowns & seemingly perpetual stimulus bills fosters dependency on the government.
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Not contempt. Just explaining why a job that a 12-year-old could do is worth so little.

And I am always polite to fast-food workers. Just because they have a minimal value on the market doesn’t mean they should be treated with contempt. But neither should they be paid more than the job is worth.

We wouldn’t be having this conversation is the OP didn’t feel on some level that he is entitled to not wait when he goes to Wendy’s for coffee.

That leads me to conclude that a fully staffed Wendy’s is essential to his well-being.

So what are people now perceived to be “essential” worth?
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Old 04-22-2021, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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So what are people now perceived to be “essential” worth?
Amazing how quickly "essential workers" become teenage oiks who don't deserve better working conditions/pay isn't it?
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