Sheriff: Deputy fatally shot Black man while serving warrant (March, dollars, party)
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At this point, do you blame them for freaking out and trying to flee?
This was a SWAT team that came to arrest him - without seeing the video, it seems to me he might have just panicked and tried to save himself. Didn't work, though.
I know, I know, don't disobey cop's commands if you want to live to tell the tale, but this is not the America I want to live in.
Well, then what? Let the criminals go free because they don't want to get caught? Think about it. They has to be a consequence for breaking the law - otherwise we are lawless.
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Well, then what? Let the criminals go free because they don't want to get caught? Think about it. They has to be a consequence for breaking the law - otherwise we are lawless.
And shooting someone to death for avoiding arrest seems like a fair deal? I think you can address evading arrest in the court room, and from his rap sheet this man should have been in prison.
But he wasn't, and he's dead now because the arresting SWAT members purposely killed him for fleeing.
Family saw the footage and they are claiming the police did not release all of it. I suspect the results were not good for the family's case, so now they are claiming editing of video by police. Hopefully, a judge will soon allow the release so all can see it.
It is sad that this person did not choose a different life for himself, but he didn't, he is dead, and that is good news for his future victims. Want to end the war on drugs? Zero mercy for dealers and treat the addicted with medical and psychological treatment.
Of course they didn't release all of it, that's pretty standard practice. Usually there's a tailgate huddle before executing a search warrant and so on that most likely would not be relevant to whether it was a good shooting or not. Unless they're all hopping around excited about how they're going to bag one for 15 minutes none of that would be relevant. Family can ask for it and probably have it release to a judge in camera who would make the ruling how much of the body cam footage is to be released.
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And shooting someone to death for avoiding arrest seems like a fair deal? I think you can address evading arrest in the court room, and from his rap sheet this man should have been in prison.
But he wasn't, and he's dead now because the arresting SWAT members purposely killed him for fleeing.
Depends on what the charges and circumstances are. Used to be, yeah, if you stole some bubblegum and decided to run it was completely justified. That's not the case anymore. But for a more dangerous criminal who they suspect is armed and not taking the shot may put the public or officers at risk, it's still justified. Maybe your opinion on the law is that it's bad law but law is law whether we like it or not. There's plenty of old school cops who think it's bad law that they can't just mow down teenagers who get spooked after stealing some bubblegum as well.
And shooting someone to death for avoiding arrest seems like a fair deal? I think you can address evading arrest in the court room, and from his rap sheet this man should have been in prison.
But he wasn't, and he's dead now because the arresting SWAT members purposely killed him for fleeing.
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He was in his car, planning to drive away.
Fleeing, you mean in manner similar to a person casually pulling out of their parking spot and driving away, with no one nearby? Or aiming their car at the police as they accelerate in a dangerous and erratic manner?
I haven't seen the video, and to be perfectly honest, at this point... I don't care anymore. Because even when the police do everything correctly, the BLM crowd comes unglued and wants to go into riot mode.
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Here's a video released by the city. It's from a camera mounted on a phone pole. You can't really see anything - early in the video, the swat truck drives to his residence and you can hear put your hands up put your hands up and then apparently shots are fired, but at that point the camera "glitches". The city said the camera glitched because of the loud sounds of gunfire.
It seems he may have been in his car when they approached his residence - this happened VERY quickly - it's not like they knocked on the door and he darted out. They encountered him as soon as they drove up.
Here's a video released by the city. It's from a camera mounted on a phone pole. You can't really see anything - early in the video, the swat truck drives to his residence and you can hear put your hands up put your hands up and then apparently shots are fired, but at that point the camera "glitches". The city said the camera glitched because of the loud sounds of gunfire.
It seems he may have been in his car when they approached his residence - this happened VERY quickly - it's not like they knocked on the door and he darted out. They encountered him as soon as they drove up.
So we don't really know anything at this point. But as I pointed out earlier, even facts exonerating the police doesn't matter to our politicians, nor to BLM, they will protest and the violent ones will riot, as per usual.
As I have pointed out multiple times before, it is no coincidence that protesters and rioters seem to latch onto these types of incidents.
To the average person, they'll look at these incidents and scratch their heads and wonder, why are people protesting, rioting, and looting over these career criminals who offer nothing of value to society at large?
And the answer is quite simple. It is because the career criminal types are the ones that are most likely to disobey and resist arrest in the most violent ways possible, which just about guarantees that the police will be forced to act harshly back in return, which just about guarantees serious injury or death, which just about guarantees sensationalist media headlines and the excuse to riot and loot indiscriminately.
What's the fun in rioting and looting over someone that gets shot while they lay there on the street peacefully and fully complying with police officers? The more dramatic, violent, and extreme, the better in the eyes of these miscreants.
And it's no coincidence that these criminals have become increasingly emboldened to act recklessly the past eight years. These criminals know that regardless of what they do, their protesting fan base will automatically jump to their defense regardless and threaten violence as 'payback.' That's why these criminals continue to violently resist arrest and ignore officer commands. I mean, what's the fun also in peacefully complying with officer commands, when you can resist arrest and create havoc and media attention/sensationalism?
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