He had a split-second to act; we have weeks to debate (gun, laws)
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In Thugland, it happens, but not amongst civilized people.
I do not know. When I was 16 a guy came out the back seat of a car with a chain wrapped around his hand. He started to set up to swing at me. One big problem though. My brother was standing directly behind with a coke bottle in his hand. The obvious thing happened but also started off a battle with 25 or 30 guys whacking away. The cops of course got called. However before they arrived my brother and I slipped into the alleys and vanished. Nice to have this sort of thing in your home neighborhood.
And this was a quite civilized neighborhood. And the other group was from an even better neighborhood.
But lets use your scenario. When the cops pull up to the fight, you know what you do if you are the only one holding a knife? You drop it. and you STOP moving.
Reminds me of what you do if you are a hostage and Tactical comes through the door.....YOU HIT THE DECK!
I do not know. When I was 16 a guy came out the back seat of a car with a chain wrapped around his hand. He started to set up to swing at me. One big problem though. My brother was standing directly behind with a coke bottle in his hand. The obvious thing happened but also started off a battle with 25 or 30 guys whacking away. The cops of course got called. However before they arrived my brother and I slipped into the alleys and vanished. Nice to have this sort of thing in your home neighborhood.
And this was a quite civilized neighborhood. And the other group was from an even better neighborhood.
Sorry but no. again-even if I take your view on this, The cop arrives and it looks more likely then not that a murder is about to happen. If he had "made it known he was on the scene" as you say-someone innocent would-more likely then not-be dead.
As a side note....This does all have a weird issue for me. Someone carrying a revolver can outdraw and shoot a officer before that officer can decide to pull the trigger. That decision time is longer then the draw and shoot time for anyone who has practiced it and who has made the shoot decision in advance. Which means arguably even someone just CARRYING a handgun that a officer believes will shoot them-should be shot. Can you imagine the outrage if a cop shot someone who never touched their gun?
And for those who think im wrong? Go watch your local historical re-enactment folks who do any amount of quickdraw practice. If you have a gun out, are pointing it at them, and trying to make a decision on if you should shoot them? They really can decide to shoot you, then draw and fire, before you can have the time to decide to shoot them.
These decisions are beyond human capacity. Which is why I think situations like these should be handled by robots or some sort of drone that can make faster decisions. I don't think we should entrust humans to make these split second decisions. The consequences of making mistakes is destructive and leads to the loss of life. So I do think we need to move away from the idea of police being human. And we need to work on better automation in law enforcement.
I am saying if you had a knife to your throat, you were amongst them. Civilized people do not fight that way.
Its rare to experience that level of violence.
No I was a kid. 16 years old like the girls were in this video. The person who held a knife to my throat was another 16 year old kid. I don't know what that kid is up to now. But imagine an officer coming to gun me or him down? I couldn't have had the stellar career I had. And if he went on to be successful, his life would have ended there. That's a tragedy. There was a time when cops didn't shoot first and ask questions later.
Society has just become more tolerant of police officers shooting citizens. When I was in high school in the 90s, most Americans were against this idea. It seemed like government overreach to most people. Now people have comfortable with it, and get mad if an officer is ever punished for it.
These decisions are beyond human capacity. Which is why I think situations like these should be handled by robots or some sort of drone that can make faster decisions. I don't think we should entrust humans to make these split second decisions. The consequences of making mistakes is destructive and leads to the loss of life. So I do think we need to move away from the idea of police being human. And we need to work on better automation in law enforcement.
Uhmmm....I write software that tests software. Trust me, you do not want automation like this in law enforcement yet.
LOL. I need to share this with my QA team.
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