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St. Louis has the 7th highest homicide rate in the world of medium to large sized cities.
St. Louis, Missouri ranks 7th with a 2020 homicide rate of 88 per 100,000 residents.
The highest worldwide was Celaya, Mexico at 109 per 100,000. Tijuana at 105 per 100,000. Juarez at 103 per 100,000.
St. Louis has the highest homicide rate of any city outside of Mexico world-wide.
The United States was tied for 2nd place in cities with the top 25 most violent cities in the world with 4 out of 25 of the most homicide rate cities in America.
Baltimore, New Orleans and Memphis have similar rates of homicide to Caracus.
Baltimore had 56 per 100,000 and was ranked #16
New Orleans had 52 per 100,000 and ranked #21
Memphis had 51 homicides per 100,000 residents and was ranked #24
Why do these largely Black populated and Black run cities have these problems? Is it the policies they put in place? Is there too much big government or too little government in these cities?
We're talking about cities with a history of severe racial strife, a history of industry leaving those cities, and gangs. This is who you get living there:
1) DINKS (Duel Income, No Kids). And those are the persons who lead the way to gentrification.
2) Poor Blacks who are living in the city because many needed services are there.
In short, cities are not as family friendly as they could be. It's not the policies themselves. Rather, those who already live there are more likely to support certain policies based on their needs. Many of those same persons will support certain policies wherever they live.
Too little government won't help the persons living there. Too much government won't work either. Less government and the gangs will end up ruling the streets. Too much government and things get bloated and ineffective. And then consider the "shoot and ask questions later" attitude. Many murders take place during arguments. The government can't legislate away a short temper and a belief that violence is the only way to solve problems. Taking away guns won't solve that problem, especially when the individuals committing murder don't expect to live past 30 or 40.
La Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS 13) plays a big role. It's also the most densely populated country in Central America. Alot of gang activity squeezed into a small, densely populated area, a bad combination. In El Salvador there is a death squad known as La Sombra Negra. It is comprised of police and military personnel. That group targets criminals and gang members and kills them. It still hasn't solved the gang issue.
The United States was tied for 2nd place in cities with the top 25 most violent cities in the world with 4 out of 25 of the most homicide rate cities in America.
Hmm. Wonder why that is. Bet there are no Canadian, European, or Australian cities on any list of cities with the most violent crimes.
Nope, it's the US up there with Mexico and other poor, corrupt countries. What's the common variable in these countries absent in other First World countries?
Hmm. Wonder why that is. Bet there are no Canadian, European, or Australian cities on any list of cities with the most violent crimes.
Nope, it's the US up there with Mexico and other poor, corrupt countries. What's the common variable in these countries absent in other First World countries?
Switzerland isn't on that list either. Neither is the Czech Republic.
The USA has a large underclass, very large among industrialized nations. Alot of murders in the USA are driving by anger/arguments. Stabbings, shootings, blunt force violence. And a culture of violence among some.
And within Canada, Nunavut has a homicide rate of 17.81 per 100,000. While this is not representative of Canada as a whole, Nunavut's homicide rate is higher than any state in the USA. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are next on the list. Both provinces have populations comparable to New Hampshire. Both provinces have more murders than New Hampshire. New Hampshire has often had a homicide rate around 1 to 1.5 per 100,000 over the last 25 years, some years as low as 0.8 per 100,000. Only in 2019 did it hit 2 per 100,000 or higher.
Canada has a lower murder rate than America, but like America, it's not evenly distributed. MB and SK have the highest homicides rates of any place not named Nunavut. 5.23 per 100,000 in Manitoba and 4.68 per 100,000 in Saskatchewan. In America, Vermont and New Hampshire are among the safest states in the USA. Louisiana is among the most dangerous.
One of the reasons I'm not in favor of banning guns. Look at Jamaica. That country tried to ban guns and the murder rate surged. Kingston has a murder rate nearly twice as high (169 per 100,000) as America's worst city, St. Louis (89 per 100,000).
Switzerland isn't a difficult country to get a gun. It has a long-standing gun culture, mostly rooted in sport shooting and hunting. It has a murder rate of 0.6 per 100,000.
La Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS 13) plays a big role. It's also the most densely populated country in Central America. Alot of gang activity squeezed into a small, densely populated area, a bad combination. In El Salvador there is a death squad known as La Sombra Negra. It is comprised of police and military personnel. That group targets criminals and gang members and kills them. It still hasn't solved the gang issue.
If only El Salvador could find a country stupid enough to take all these MS-13 gangbangers, they just might be able to clean up their country for good. Of course, that country would have to entice these gangbangers with plenty of free stuff, but at the same time, allow them to commit mayhem, murder, and rape without much of a chance of getting caught.
Oh wait, there is such a country and El Salvador was able to find them? Wow!
Ask yourself this. Where did such a ghetto culture come from? I'd go read up on Thomas Sowell to get an idea.
I would take this case by case. St. Louis is really bad. I also think about this. Atlanta is 52% Black, and therefore, majority Black. Atlanta's homicide rate was trending downward during the 2010s and is about 4 times lower than St. Louis (even with the recent crime wave of 2020). In fact, I think about this.
Missouri demographics
81% White
12% Black
3% Hispanic
2% Asian
Missouri's murder rate: 9.3 per 100,000
Georgia demographics
52% White
32% Black
10% Hispanic
4% Asian
Georgia's murder rate: 6.2 per 100,000
Both states have murder rates above the national average. However, Missouri is in the top 5 for murder. Georgia's murder rate is markedly lower (it's lower than that of Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Illinois). Georgia has far more Blacks than Missouri. Atlanta is majority Black. And yet, both St. Louis and Missouri have much higher murder rates than Atlanta or Georgia.
Black homicide rate for Missouri (2017): 57.3 per 100,000
Black homicide rate for Georgia (2017): 14.92 per 100,000
Missouri has often recorded the highest Black homicide rates in the country over the last 14 years. Other states that have cracked #1 for Black homicide rates include Nebraska, Pennsylvania, and Indiana.
A good question is this. What are the dynamics going on in Missouri (and St. Louis) that aren't as prevalent in Georgia (and Atlanta)? Why does Atlanta seem to be doing better than St. Louis?
You are extrapolating state data to make conclusions about crime in individual cities.
I live in Mo. Mo is a predominantly white state, but the violent areas (st. Louis and KC) are in areas with a disproportionately high black population.
When we go to St. Louis, it is only for theater or sporting events. Those areas are safe (provided it is not too late at night) as the cops patrol them heavily. Nearly all the crime in St. Louis is perpetrated by the black population there, so people just avoid those parts of town.
Sr. Louis population is declining, but the population of the suburbs is increasing. People have just moved from the violent urban area to the safer burbs. That trend will continue as crime continues in St; Louis proper. East St. Louis is like Somalia and doesn't even look like the US.
until black people figure out how to culturally change the problem of black on black crime, nothing will change..
Don't worry, the democrats along with the likes of Obama and Harris already working on their problems. They are quietly bringing in Black immigrants from the nice parts of Africa and the Middle East, as well as the more friendlier parts of the Caribbean and have them start to take control of areas. I give it about 10 to 15 years, but the Black community will go from majority African American from slave descendants to Blacks from immigrants of either the Caribbean or African countries.
Think about how the Census of 2000 was being broken up. White people are now being separated between two groups, either White Non Hispanice or White Hispanic, and if you fall in the latter category, they will classify you as Hispanic. In doing this, they are lessening the numbers of White people in an area. I even hear they want to even classify Italians and Jewish as non Whites as well. But yet they won't do the same for Black people. You are just Black, not African American or Black immigrant or Black Hispanic..... Very deceptive practices indeed.
Switzerland isn't on that list either. Neither is the Czech Republic.
The USA has a large underclass, very large among industrialized nations. Alot of murders in the USA are driving by anger/arguments. Stabbings, shootings, blunt force violence. And a culture of violence among some.
And within Canada, Nunavut has a homicide rate of 17.81 per 100,000. While this is not representative of Canada as a whole, Nunavut's homicide rate is higher than any state in the USA. Manitoba and Saskatchewan are next on the list. Both provinces have populations comparable to New Hampshire. Both provinces have more murders than New Hampshire. New Hampshire has often had a homicide rate around 1 to 1.5 per 100,000 over the last 25 years, some years as low as 0.8 per 100,000. Only in 2019 did it hit 2 per 100,000 or higher.
Canada has a lower murder rate than America, but like America, it's not evenly distributed. MB and SK have the highest homicides rates of any place not named Nunavut. 5.23 per 100,000 in Manitoba and 4.68 per 100,000 in Saskatchewan. In America, Vermont and New Hampshire are among the safest states in the USA. Louisiana is among the most dangerous.
One of the reasons I'm not in favor of banning guns. Look at Jamaica. That country tried to ban guns and the murder rate surged. Kingston has a murder rate nearly twice as high (169 per 100,000) as America's worst city, St. Louis (89 per 100,000).
Switzerland isn't a difficult country to get a gun. It has a long-standing gun culture, mostly rooted in sport shooting and hunting. It has a murder rate of 0.6 per 100,000.
Where are you getting your data? If you're going to post numbers, you should include your reliable, authoritative, credible sources.
If only El Salvador could find a country stupid enough to take all these MS-13 gangbangers, they just might be able to clean up their country for good. Of course, that country would have to entice these gangbangers with plenty of free stuff, but at the same time, allow them to commit mayhem, murder, and rape without much of a chance of getting caught.
Oh wait, there is such a country and El Salvador was able to find them? Wow!
MS-13 isn't just in El Salvador. They're in Guatemala, Mexico, and Honduras. They can be found in the USA and Canada as well. They've been found in Spain. Some MS-13 members (along with Surenos and Crips) have been found among the U.S. military. Free stuff isn't needed. MS-13 is into drug trafficking, weapons trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering. No free stuff needed. Some gang members were found working in jobs like house painting or as cooks.
Interestingly, MS-13 was actually started in America. Salvadoran refugees went to the USA during a war in the 1970s. Many found they weren't welcome among the established Mexican and Black populations. Some of the individuals established gangs to protect themselves. And then it turned into criminal behavior. After the Salvadoran Civil War ended in 1992, many MS-13 gang members were deported. And then MS-13 basically turned on El Salvador and spread through Guatemala, Honduras, and parts of Mexico.
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