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Old 04-27-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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You guys don't have to secede. You can just leave. Move to another country. Love it or leave it, right? Isn't that what you said for 4 years when Trump was President?

 
Old 04-27-2021, 01:04 PM
 
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You guys don't have to secede. You can just leave. Move to another country. Love it or leave it, right? Isn't that what you said for 4 years when Trump was President?
Since it is you and yours that want to change it it seems that it is you and yours that need to leave. We have been happy with this country since its founding but not recently since you want to change it and not for the good either.
 
Old 04-27-2021, 02:32 PM
 
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But dad, your views are outdated.
Really, not wanting men in women's bathrooms or competing in women's sports is outdated? Wanting a secure border and to repel illegal immigration is outdated? Respecting the rule of law and our police officers whom are mostly decent people, is outdated? Respecting our 2nd Amendment rights, is outdate? That's just a few things that come to mind in what this country has not been since it's founding. Are those things really outdated or is it idiotic transformation?
 
Old 04-27-2021, 02:38 PM
 
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Take a trip to Walmart and look at the people. Heck, many are so overweight or so poorly dressed in loose clothing that no one knows their gender and no one would care. Let them go into either room into a stall and do their business.
 
Old 04-27-2021, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Since it is you and yours that want to change it it seems that it is you and yours that need to leave. We have been happy with this country since its founding but not recently since you want to change it and not for the good either.
I question whether you were really around when it was founded...
 
Old 04-27-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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I question whether you were really around when it was founded...
...also, the country itself has changed tremendously since it's founding. The Constitution itself was changed 17 times since then (the first ten all happened at the same time), we gave blacks their freedom, we allowed women to vote, we allowed blacks to vote (we even elected one President!), we invented the internal combustion engine, The Cubs won the World Series, you get the idea. YOU may have been happy with the country since it's founding, but history shows that the country has been changing ever since it was founded. You may agree with some changes, and disagree with others (we all do), but to claim that you and your kind were happy with the country is just ingenuous, and completely forgets the 8 years that Obama was President (when so many of you were frothing at the mouth about the "muslim" in the White House... as if being Muslim disqualified someone from being President).

You guys are the ones who always shouted "love it or leave it..." so, uhm, love it or leave it.

Or just go out and vote during the next election, like normal people. We win some, we lose some, but there is always another election just around the corner.
 
Old 04-27-2021, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Since it is you and yours that want to change it it seems that it is you and yours that need to leave. We have been happy with this country since its founding but not recently since you want to change it and not for the good either.
Wait ... Isn't secession a "change"? And who's advocating for that?
 
Old 04-27-2021, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Really, not wanting men in women's bathrooms or competing in women's sports is outdated? Wanting a secure border and to repel illegal immigration is outdated? Respecting the rule of law and our police officers whom are mostly decent people, is outdated? Respecting our 2nd Amendment rights, is outdate? That's just a few things that come to mind in what this country has not been since it's founding. Are those things really outdated or is it idiotic transformation?
All insignificant compared to what happened in the last election.

Besides you have a 6-3 conservative majority, they can do great things like make sure guns have free reign and keep men out of women's bathrooms, these are more important issues than democratic elections.
 
Old 04-27-2021, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Balkanization, baby. It's bound to happen sooner or later, weather the Rs have the balls to threaten or not.

In the meantime, just move to a red state and make it redder. Ever since Jan 20th these red states have passed laws that favor their constituents. Local/state govt is where the real power lies.
 
Old 04-27-2021, 08:02 PM
 
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I question whether you were really around when it was founded...
I wasn't but I know traditional values were embraced back then and up until recently. Ever heard of books, history?
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